On the same day one part of the government announces breakthrough scientific research another part says “The federal government has yet to take a single meaningful action to protect American users from the threat of TikTok.”
lol
Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
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Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
> American government thinks of its citizens as being so clueless to need such a paternalistic policy. uh... you really haven't met a lot of US citizens if you think they don't need paternalistic policy.
Oh I have. Plenty of Americans do things obviously bad for themselves. Should all of those things be illegal? Debatable
Should it be none of them?
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?
Because China is not a good example to follow. It is a dystopian state with full control of what their citizens have access to. Why would you want to have your government to choose the apps for you?
Western countries have always had trade restrictions on physical trade, why is digital trade different?
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#74Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…
US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?
Because we don't want to be an authoritarian hellhole?
Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because China is not a good example to follow. It is a dystopian state with full control of what their citizens have access to. Why would you want to have your government to choose the apps for you?
if you believe China is a dystopian state why would a Chinese tech product that isn't even allowed in it's international form within China not itself "dystopian" imo the most dystopian thing about TikTok is the fact that China intentionally exports a highly addictive product that they don't allow their own people to use
TikTok does exist in China. It is called Douyin. The reason that they have a separate service domestically is most likely not the addictiveness of it. From the introduction section of Wikipedia's article on TikTok:
TikTok and Douyin have almost the same user interface but no access to each other's content. Their servers are each based in the market where the respective app is available.[11] The two products are similar, but their features are not identical. Douyin includes an in-video search feature that can search by people's faces for more videos of them and other features such as buying, booking hotels and making geo-tagged reviews.[12]
Edit: I see what you mean. For all intents and purposes, I stand corrected.
Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
#76Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…
US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?
Movies too
Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?
Because China is not a good example to follow. It is a dystopian state with full control of what their citizens have access to. Why would you want to have your government to choose the apps for you?
It then follows that you don't want a dystopian state to control the discourse of your citizens.
Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
#78Seems like a good way to lose young voters. How hard would it be to spin-off TikTok USA into a separate entity?
Seems like a good way to lose young voters. Anyone aggrieved by this would move on to the next social fad and forget that TikTok even exists as quickly as they forgot #kony2012 three months later. And my guess is that they're not exactly enthusiastic participants in the electoral system anyway.
> And my guess is that they're not exactly enthusiastic participants in the electoral system anyway.
Gen Z voters were the driving force giving the Democrats the best midterm results in decades.
Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
#79"TikTok is digital fentanyl that’s addicting Americans, collecting troves of their data, and censoring their news."
Is the conclusion that all forms of digital fentanyl should be banned or just Chinese ones? Because the reality is there's nothing too exceptional about TikTok's underlying algorithms. Will lawmakers be willing enact legislation against companies marketing similar "digital fentanyl" but that are American or European in origin?
Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok
#80Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…
State run apps that are designed to "nudge" and manipulate population at a large scale, should be classified as weapons and banned. This is not a regular app, but part of information warfare China is engaged in with the West.
My question for you: why stop at state-run ones?