Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok • Hacker News Board

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by countvonbalzac » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:21 PM UTC

jimbob45 wrote: post #32

zwieback wrote: post #17

Seems like a good way to lose young voters. How hard would it be to spin-off TikTok USA into a separate entity?

Why spin it off? We already have a clone in the form of Instagram Reels. Also banning TikTok might set off a Cold War of banning each other’s apps and I have to think we would lose more in that scenario.

If that's true, then didn't the cold war of banning each other's apps start when China banned youtube, facebook, instagram, google, twitter, whatsapp, snapchat, amazon, messenger, and twitch, just to name a few?

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by meepmorp » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:21 PM UTC

jimbob45 wrote: post #32

zwieback wrote: post #17

Seems like a good way to lose young voters. How hard would it be to spin-off TikTok USA into a separate entity?

Why spin it off? We already have a clone in the form of Instagram Reels. Also banning TikTok might set off a Cold War of banning each other’s apps and I have to think we would lose more in that scenario.

Do you think China allows access to Facebook and Twitter?

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by jimbob45 » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:21 PM UTC

pasttense01 wrote: post #8

This a a press release from Republican Senator Rubio from Florida and doesn't belong in this forum.

If you have a better source, post it and dang will probably replace the submission’s URL.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by mnd999 » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:22 PM UTC

curiousllama wrote: post #3

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #2

Somebody more in the know, will this actually pass?

Almost certainly not, at least in this iteration - but Meta's stock is up ~6%, so it's not nothing

They should extend to Instagram, Facebook, Twitter etc. unless they’re prepared to be open and interoperable.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by _-david-_ » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:22 PM UTC

mrtksn wrote: post #16

varispeed wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

State run apps that are designed to "nudge" and manipulate population at a large scale, should be classified as weapons and banned. This is not a regular app, but part of information warfare China is engaged in with the West.

The US is known for involvement in the policies of other nations and even organising coups etc. With documented access of the American government into the American tech giants, I don't have reason to believe that Instagram is any different than TikTok. What makes you think that CIA didn't infiltrate Meta or made a deal to manipulate political situation in its friends and foes? What makes you believe that they won't w…

>The US is known for involvement in the policies of other nations and even organising coups etc

If they don't like that they should be free to ban social media being used in that way.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by eternalban » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:22 PM UTC

mrtksn wrote: post #30

uoaei wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world is composed of shades of grey.

What shade of Pantone gray is the US government curating the AppStore?

The shade that comes with shiny black boots happily goosestepping down Constitution Avenue NW.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by par » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:23 PM UTC

endisneigh wrote: post #34

It’ll be fun in 10 years when you need the equivalent of calling cards to access foreign sites. In the end it’s hilarious how the American government thinks of its citizens as being so clueless to need such a paternalistic policy. I wonder how many tiktokers even care about the fact that the app is Chinese.

> American government thinks of its citizens as being so clueless to need such a paternalistic policy.

uh... you really haven't met a lot of US citizens if you think they don't need paternalistic policy.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by FpUser » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:24 PM UTC

uoaei wrote: post #27

mrtksn wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because China is not a good example to follow. It is a dystopian state with full control of what their citizens have access to. Why would you want to have your government to choose the apps for you?

The world is composed of shades of grey.

To me it looks like shades of brown

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by somrand0 » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:25 PM UTC

mrtksn wrote: post #30

uoaei wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world is composed of shades of grey.

What shade of Pantone gray is the US government curating the AppStore?

you need to pay whomever owns pantone a bunch of money to know that kind of thing

this is now easier than ever through adobe cloud offerings! only 12 usd a month!

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by jzmorganchase » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:25 PM UTC

mrtksn wrote: post #22

philjohn wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?

Because China is not a good example to follow. It is a dystopian state with full control of what their citizens have access to. Why would you want to have your government to choose the apps for you?

if you believe China is a dystopian state why would a Chinese tech product that isn't even allowed in it's international form within China not itself "dystopian"

imo the most dystopian thing about TikTok is the fact that China intentionally exports a highly addictive product that they don't allow their own people to use