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Washington faltered as fentanyl gripped America

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Re: Washington faltered as fentanyl gripped America

#81

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In my limited experience, you get better results from GP visits if you come with opinions and data about your own conditions and care hopes. They’re too busy; the current system that has forced 10min bookings weeks ahead as the only means of access means it goes better if you do the research for them.

I agree, but wouldn't consider watching TV to be meaningful research.

My experience if you do your research your labeled as a hypochondriac and given anxiety meds. At least until you are nearly dead, then they sort of listen

Oh you show signs of strokes and autoimmune condition? Here’s some chill pills.

Re: Washington faltered as fentanyl gripped America

#82
Why are people using Fentanyl? Maybe tackle that instead of further marginalizing people who use it?

Are they using it to escape the grinding anxiety and desperation of their shitty lives?

Are they using it instead of alcohol, again as escapism from reality? Is this use any different from how people used alcohol in past decades?

I guess the point I'm poorly trying to make is that people aren't suddenly different to those in the 1970s, 1920s, or the 1800s. They have a similar environment with similar anxieties, pains, responsibilities, etc etc.

I'm very, very biased on this subject. I suffer from constant pain, this comment being written while I sit down to recover from walking my dog. I've been given Morphine and Vicodin, Suboxone and Lyrica. Currently I'm lucky enough to be on Zubsolv, which is a better formulation of Suboxone that doesn't disrupt my sleep as much nor give me horrible muscle spasms. I've tried edibles, as I live in Michigan which has legalized Marijuana. Unfortunately I tolerate them way too fast and they just send me to sleep.

People I know across the USA have wildly different results to seeing a doctor for pain relief. Some can't even see a doctor who will even discuss pain with them. Others, like me, have been accused of drug seeking. Or ripped off by hospitals promising to help with nerve abrading, injections, implants, etc. Those hospitals eager to help are also very proficient at billing to extract the most money from insurance and patient.

If I were 16 again, armed with what I know now, I'd go into medical research. Specifically tolerance, because in my opinion that's the keystone of the building that is drug dependence. People get tolerant of their drug of choice, take more to get the same effect, chasing that dragon around and around not noticing that the circle has become a downward spiral. Plus so many overdoses are from people taking an old high dose that used to work, when they've been off the drug for a while and are no longer as tolerant.

There has to be a way of factory resetting people's tolerance for drugs without harming the person. I wish that could be found and added to opiates especially.

My apologies for the rambling rant. Just realize that these statistics you read about are all people. All lives that may have tried to feel better about themselves and ended up drowning in their dependence. Please don't write us all off as junkies who deserve punishment for stumbling in life.

Re: Washington faltered as fentanyl gripped America

#83
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Opium Wars Round 3 is getting pretty intense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl https://www.brookings.edu/research/china-and-synthetic-drugs...

Heh. Apparently poppy cultivation is down because synthetic opiate production is cheaper and faster. O Brave New World!

Re: Washington faltered as fentanyl gripped America

#84
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All drugs should be legalized. That is the only solution. You should be able to buy cocaine, heroin, fentanyl at the local grocery store. No question asked. Maybe even subsidize it for poor people who can't afford market prices. The local pharmacy should provide training on how to inject/consume them safely and give for free the associated consumables.

There is a theory that seems correct - when a drug is banned, the black market moves towards the most potent version available.

Even during prohibition it was way easier and profitable to make bootleg whiskey than beer.

Why? It’s easier to conceal, packs the most punch, and is the most profitable by weight.

Instead of making heroin legal, make opium legal. Or even weaker opioids like codeine. Then people who wanted an opioid high would have access to legal, clean, less potent opioids that could be taken in a less harmful way than IVing black tar heroin.

Re: Washington faltered as fentanyl gripped America

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post #8

Opium Wars Round 3 is getting pretty intense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl https://www.brookings.edu/research/china-and-synthetic-drugs...

Exactly. I watched a few podcasts with a Mexican reporter who now lives in the US. He claims the same thing, opium wars 3.0.

There’s another video here where a guy explains how the cartels went from super labs to many smaller apartment style labs. Chinese chemists come and train each small lab for 90 days until they can do it on their own.[1]

[1] https://youtu.be/jZFjV9BRyNw

Re: Washington faltered as fentanyl gripped America

#87

Human: Write me the longest possible article on the dangers of drugs while obfuscating around the living and working conditions that make fentanyl seem like a viable aternative to life.

I’m certain ChatGPT can help you out with this prompt.

Re: Washington faltered as fentanyl gripped America

#88
post #70
post #44

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A lot die of fentanyl without even knowing, because fentanyl was added to another drug to increase it's potency. My proposal would sell pharma-grade drugs of known quality/dose in grocery stores at affordable prices. The illegal market would die overnight.

And increase the number of users which cause substantial problems on its own - crime, addiction, disease, various family issues.

These problems are caused by criminalization.

Re: Washington faltered as fentanyl gripped America

#89
post #35

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> But that would upset the teetotalers and puritans. It's easy to cater to them. In the packet that legalizes all drugs you also remove all gun control laws. So you make all drugs and all guns legal in all circumstances and at all times, just like it should be in a free country. The state should not control what you put in your mouth or veins or what you carry in your pocket.

And if I don't want some rando putting a bullet in me in a mall or school shooting spree what "freedom" do I have to avoid that? And don't say "carry" because that's been proven time and again to be utter nonsense in practice.

Perhaps adapt to the risk in which the activities you put yourself in?

Plenty of people go to the mall or school without catching a bullet from a "rando"

Re: Washington faltered as fentanyl gripped America

#90
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But that would upset the teetotalers and puritans. It's easy to cater to them. In the packet that legalizes all drugs you also remove all gun control laws. So you make all drugs and all guns legal in all circumstances and at all times, just like it should be in a free country. The state should not control what you put in your mouth or veins or what you carry in your pocket.

And if I don't want some rando putting a bullet in me in a mall or school shooting spree what "freedom" do I have to avoid that? And don't say "carry" because that's been proven time and again to be utter nonsense in practice.

I'm genuinely unsure if this is satire.

The last time someone tried to shoot up a mall they got clapped by some rando who was carrying. The last time someone tried to shoot up a school the police prevented anyone from interfering while they went at it for 40min. Your selection of examples seem specifically chosen to highlight the failure of the policy you are at least pretending to advocate for.

Existing gun laws do basically nothing to stop the kind of pre-meditated violence of which you speak. At best they act as a marginal deterrent and that marginal effect carries over into the actual results.

Frankly, I don't think that crimes of pure possession (for guns, drugs or any other vice) should be crimes except with some specific time and place qualifiers (bomb at home -> ok, bomb in airport -> not ok).

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