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Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by hhmc »

ehnto wrote: post #99
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The folks who don't make it are an interesting group on their own. Something like 95% of streamers have under five viewers, and the majority of those have exactly zero viewers. Thinking about all those thousands of people broadcasting day in and out to exactly nobody is kind of fascinating. It's not like broadcasting on a ham radio or shouting into the aether or blogging on a little independent site thinking that may…

The stats are a bit skewed I think, because you have to have an account on twitch to participate as a consumer on twitch, so all those 0 view streamers are very possibly people who are actually consumers and had no intention of streaming themselves.

No, people who don’t stream aren’t counted in the above statistic (which is trivial to spot check)

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by emodendroket »

holler wrote: post #97
jatins wrote: post #93

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> I think a more interesting story would be about the people that grind for years and years and never make it. I wonder the same for athletes. Was recently reading Nadal's biography and parts of book describe his routine in childhood and teenage. And my first thought on reading that was "what if he hadn't made it to the top?" because he essentially had no semblance of a regular childhood/teenage. Being out on the fie…

Seems like this could apply to startup founders as well.

You can always just get a job later in that case.

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by emodendroket »

vimwizard wrote: post #53

I think a more interesting story would be about the people that grind for years and years and never make it. You're left without a useful skill and no money, and probably a deficit on your mental health because you didn't go out and talk to people in real life for years. I think its not at all worth getting into as a career because making it big is like starting out as an actor, you have to know people. If you hit it…

Either it’s easy and nobody should complain or it’s hard and people are making a crazy investment with no idea about return. I don’t know if it’s so different than sports. Yeah, it’s better to be LeBron than a guy who was just short of being good enough for the pros. But playing at that level is not easy no matter how much you are being paid.

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by js8 »

holler wrote: post #97
jatins wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think a more interesting story would be about the people that grind for years and years and never make it. I wonder the same for athletes. Was recently reading Nadal's biography and parts of book describe his routine in childhood and teenage. And my first thought on reading that was "what if he hadn't made it to the top?" because he essentially had no semblance of a regular childhood/teenage. Being out on the fie…

Seems like this could apply to startup founders as well.

Totally. Deep inside the capitalist machinery, what really propels it forwards is the irrational human need to do something really crazy. If only rational MBAs ruled the world, nothing new would ever happen.

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by Ekaros »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #89
iJohnDoe wrote: post #21

I didn’t read the whole article. However, there have been a few articles about successful Twitch streamers that have made millions. They have all said that there is a ton of pressure to stream on a regular basis. Very little sleep. So, I do believe there is pressure to stream all the time. If you can make millions doing absolutely nothing and zero pressure, please tell everyone the secret. We would all appreciate the…

Honestly being a “streamer” sounds like a horrible job. You have to work very long days entertaining a large group of socially maladjusted watchers who think you’re “friends” because they watch you a lot.

Not to forget the unstability, from changes in monetisation to possibly of being banned for wrong words. Maybe just for going against some mainstream narrative. And then maybe someone just spams chat and it ends up hurting you.

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by DoingIsLearning »

Semaphor wrote: post #40

I watch a streamer (cooking) with a bunch of autoimmune diseases. She has a lot fewer people watching than anyone mentioned here (30-100, but a far higher percent than normal donate), but she’s also scared of taking days off, mainly because she knows it’s a job. It makes me sad when I see her stream while one of her diseases is flaring up, but unlike the rich streamers, they need the money.

> I watch a streamer (cooking) with a bunch of autoimmune diseases.

Out of curiosity, as someone who never used Twitch, what is the discovery process here? As in how did you find this specific streamer in the first place? My (likely biased) impression was that the platform is mostly for gaming streams.

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by pocketarc »

thefz wrote: post #114

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That’s the same kind of thinking that leads to people saying that sitting at a computer isn’t real work, couldn’t possibly be exhausting. It’s not back-breaking work, after all.

Their kind of work does come with its own challenges, even if they don’t include the same challenges you’re used to thinking about.

Re: On Twitch, you can never log off

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Post by nverno »

hyperhopper wrote: post #80
Semaphor wrote: post #58

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We, the community. If that bothers you, I’m sorry.

I disagree as well. The community didn't do what resulted in the raid. That was the streamer. Yeah you were there watching, but it's like saying "we won" when your favorite sports team wins.

The metric being measured here is viewership, so I'd reckon the viewers are directly involved in that "win".
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