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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by berkes »

progman32 wrote: post #197

Linux/*BSD may still be that awkward friend who sometimes misreads your intentions and causes awkward moments or knocks glasses over, but at least tries to respect you (snapd excepted). Windows these days doesn't seem to respect you. There's a difference in my mind between struggling to make your computer do something (because nobody made it easy yet) and struggling to make your computer do something (because a marke…

As much as I dislike snapd, I don't see how that is a lack of respect. It's just unfinished not ready for production mostly, i'd say.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by czx4f4bd »

Aperocky wrote: post #134
azemetre wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will say myself personally, that after I got my steam deck I haven't turned on my desktop in 6 months. Slowly in the process of converting my windows desktop into a media server. My two laptops are not windows machines. I have't looked at the steam surveys but I hope there's enough users to encourage more publishers to make games linux compatible. I know for me personally, all the games I enjoy are available for li…

Too bad if you're interested in playing Age Of Empires 2 and older titles like Medieval Total War... There are some concern about graphics performance as well, it seems most titles are not tuned for Linux. Do you have the same graphic performance under linux?

What's the problem with AoE II? It's rated gold on https://www.protondb.com/app/221380 and runs fine for me under Proton.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by hutzlibu »

goosedragons wrote: post #114
oriolid wrote: post #79

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If you're a veteran Linux user, you probably know where to look for config files and how to hack them. Trying to use Linux using GUI only, whichever you choose, is awful. It's like the designers copied the worst ideas from both Windows and MacOS on purpose and then added some of their own.

You don't need to hack config files. The big DEs have GUI settings for pretty much everything macOS or Windows does. The only reason it might not seem like it is tutorial websites where it's easier to post a one line command then screenshots for 7 different GUIs.

"it's easier to post a one line command then screenshots for 7 different GUIs"

Yeah, that's the thing. It often feels GUIs on linux are meshed together from at least 7 different styles and paradigms and too often they are indeed made like this.

So in Ubuntu for example I sometimes had to click left to close a window and sometimes right.

What laypersons want, is one single way to do things, that works. But you just won't get far, without the terminal. That is, things do run pretty much out of the box if you are lucky - until they don't. And then good luck trying to fix it without the terminal. I can parse and usually fix cryptic error messages and logs, but my father (who is a trained engineer, but no english speaker nor programmer) cannot. Unless of course there is a driver issue. I seldom can fix them and I encountered too many over the years.

In either case, I am lucky that linux exists and I am now off to try out EndeavourOS ..

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by _Algernon_ »

betaby wrote: post #185
actually_a_dog wrote: post #163

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Oh really? Where are these widely used/popular Android desktop and/or laptop machines?

Chromebooks I suppose. https://www.gsmarena.com/pc_and_tablets_see_strong_sales_per...

They may run Android apps, but they are not Android devices.

By that logic, my Linux machine is a Windows machine, because it has Wine/Proton.

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Post by jazzyjackson »

barbariangrunge wrote: post #207
dehrmann wrote: post #176

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Microsoft also used to have 90% market share. It's less impressive now that Mac is a viable competitor and iOS and Android are good enough for 80% of common tasks.

By viable competitor, do you mean OS that I can’t possibly use for work or for proper gaming? Mac isn’t any more viable than Ubuntu, which is why I have an Ubuntu laptop (But a windows desktop, by utter necessity) (Edit: Actually, when it comes to gaming, Linux is getting better and better) 80% of common tasks isn’t enough when part of the remaining 20% is absolutely necessary for work

I mean, obviously it depends on the work - as if macbooks weren't standard issue at many companies ostensibly doing some kind of work

if your cad software or whatever doesn't work with your OS of choice I'd take it up with the vendor

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by vetinari »

lynndotpy wrote: post #187
mancerayder wrote: post #139

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This message is 20 years old. Many of us long for the utopia of a Linux desktop that just works, where drivers are up to date and X windows doesn't die due to a yum/apt-get update. This feels like a future parody thread where someone will make fun of our comments.

This had been the opposite of my experience though. Maybe I got lucky with hardware, but I've never had issues with out-of-date drivers (outside of CUDA dependencies for research work) or having X or Gnome or whatnot break during an update. But, I need to use Windows at my employer, and it's horrible. I wish Windows were at a point where it was ready for development. Right now, the best dev setup is "install Linux in…

> having X or Gnome or whatnot break during an update.

This happened exactly once (nvidia driver update killed x as it tried to reload the kernel driver).

Still better than system update deleting all your documents, right? (yes, I know that it happened only once too, but since the nvidia problem is a fair game, deleting user documents is the same).

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by binarycrusader »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #135

Last week I allowed it to "upgrade" to Win 11 22H2. Part of the upgrade involved silently resetting a heap of my default apps. When the upgrade was done, Firefox was no longer my default browser, it was changed to Edge. Also, the default apps for PDF, JPG, PNG, TXT, MKV, and probably others that I haven't yet discovered, were set to their MS equivalent apps. Microsoft, this was not a nice thing to do to a user.

Hey, sorry that happened, it should have preserved all of the default applications, etc. There are multiple suites of tests and processes that exist to try to ensure updates preserve user data and preferences but clearly something went wrong here. I’m just a developer, not a spokesperson, but I want to ensure that this is investigated if possible.

If you file a bug in feedback hub under the Windows Update category it will collect the diagnostics required to fix this issue and prevent it from happening again.

If you also provide a link to the filed feedback to me I’ll be happy to triage it personally as I frequently work with the teams that are responsible for update migration.

Thanks!

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by syeare »

barbariangrunge wrote: post #207
dehrmann wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft also used to have 90% market share. It's less impressive now that Mac is a viable competitor and iOS and Android are good enough for 80% of common tasks.

By viable competitor, do you mean OS that I can’t possibly use for work or for proper gaming? Mac isn’t any more viable than Ubuntu, which is why I have an Ubuntu laptop (But a windows desktop, by utter necessity) (Edit: Actually, when it comes to gaming, Linux is getting better and better) 80% of common tasks isn’t enough when part of the remaining 20% is absolutely necessary for work

Can you elaborate? I never had a Mac device before this year, but it can do all the document processing (M$ Office) I need for work/school, almost all audio-related stuff (DAWs and VSTs), and video/photo (ugh I know but Adobe) that I need it to, even though its a brand new chip architecture. It can't do games but I have a M$ desktop just for that and for some rendering stuff
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