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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can't understand the difference between solidarity and tribalism, that's something you should work on. If you can't understand the political, philosophical and sociological nuances of selecting between Windows and Linux as computing environments, and why this is more than just a simple UI preference, that's something you should work on. Sarcasm is also something you should work on. See you next time.

I'm not the person you responded to, and I would never have replied with sarcasm as they did, but "Stoked to see another soul has seen through the smokescreen" comes across as more tribal than solidarity, IMO, if those are the only two options.

Did you read the article? It's about how Microsoft is gaslighting the user about the future of computing. There is absolutely a smokescreen in place, which the majority of Linux-based distributions do not employ.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#142

Most people will go along with this. Most people don't care. Those that do have already left Microsoft for Apple a long time ago. HN is not representative of the general population, and these comments really show how out of touch people are on this site.

I feel like many users do care but are not comfortable enough with technology to realize they can turn some of this stuff off, or they aren’t comfortable with switching operating systems - much less installing Linux.

I can’t tell you how many people I encounter who don’t realize AdBlockers are something they can install. Once I get uBlockOrigin set up for them they tell me it is a night and day difference. Such technologies have been available for years but they either never realized it was an option, or thought it required some hackerman level of configuration to make it work.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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post #87
post #10

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Yes 2023 is sure to be the year of the Linux desktop. (/s) The reality is the computer form factor involving a keyboard is slowly becoming more and more of a niche. Windows has a lock on this niche for business and gaming. For other home use there is strong competition from apple and for education there is strong competition from chromebook. Linux is still not really in the running, sorry.

Soo niche except for 99.99999% of devs

As a developer I tried Linux for 1 year (no dual boot). It was such traumatic experience, that I would never repeat it again.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#144
post #75

Windows as a curated platform is a lost case at this point. They probably don't make enough money from it to justify investment. Their market is the enterprise world where they have a lock in, plus gamers and PC users who cannot afford a Mac. It shows. Not a problem for me. I have no issue using a bad OS if a company is paying me for using it, and at home I don't use Windows.

No one seriously games on a Mac.

Parse error:

> Their market is the enterprise world where they have a lock in, plus gamers and PC users who cannot afford a Mac. It shows.

Their market is:

1) The enterprise world, where they have a lock in.

2) Gamers.

3) PC users who cannot afford a Mac.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#145
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes 2023 is sure to be the year of the Linux desktop. (/s) The reality is the computer form factor involving a keyboard is slowly becoming more and more of a niche. Windows has a lock on this niche for business and gaming. For other home use there is strong competition from apple and for education there is strong competition from chromebook. Linux is still not really in the running, sorry.

On the contrary, Linux is in a good position for the same reason you think it isn't. As the desktop/laptop market shrinks to advanced users, it loses the long tail of users who weren't technically capable enough to switch. At the same time, WINE/proton and even some native ports have vastly improved the gaming scene on Linux, and a decent chunk of non-gaming applications too. Sure, there will always be certain busine…

Until and unless Microsoft Office products are on Linux natively and are supported by Microsoft, Linux will never be a mainstream operating system. And that's never going to happen.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#146
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The year of the Linux Desktop already happened, just not in the way people wanted - Android and Chromebooks.

Tbh, everyone I know who has used an Android "laptop" or "Chromebook" has abandoned it after ~6 months for a "real computer". Turns out Native > Webshit for many things.

I'm never buying another Chromebook and Chromebox because Google sunsetted my perfectly fine working laptop and Chromebox and now it can't do things like play streaming movies from HBO Max because the chrome version is too low. Spotify doesn't work either. Leaves few things left to do with it haha.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#147
post #75

Windows as a curated platform is a lost case at this point. They probably don't make enough money from it to justify investment. Their market is the enterprise world where they have a lock in, plus gamers and PC users who cannot afford a Mac. It shows. Not a problem for me. I have no issue using a bad OS if a company is paying me for using it, and at home I don't use Windows.

No one seriously games on a Mac.

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#148
post #5

Bad time to be pushing this crap with the Linux desktop wooing the gaming/ power user overlap crowd now that steam deck is on the scene. I have been using Windows my whole life but now I have a PC dedicated to Linux for the 1st time and I'm thinking about seeing one up for my wife, as I'm sure Linux will be perform better on the older laptop I'm considering 'upcycling'. People forget that tech trends often flow outwa…

This message is 20 years old. Many of us long for the utopia of a Linux desktop that just works, where drivers are up to date and X windows doesn't die due to a yum/apt-get update. This feels like a future parody thread where someone will make fun of our comments.

The Linux desktop arrived under the guise of Android.

The rest is minor noise, sadly.

At least it is possible to have a working Linux desktop but that was true twenty years ago.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#149
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one seriously games on a Mac.

Parse error: > Their market is the enterprise world where they have a lock in, plus gamers and PC users who cannot afford a Mac. It shows. Their market is: 1) The enterprise world, where they have a lock in. 2) Gamers. 3) PC users who cannot afford a Mac.

This is why the oxford comma is important.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#150
Windows 10, unless things change will be my last windows machine. I use it for testing with msvc, and my tax software that i like. But all this imposition into software i paid for isn't how i want to use my computers. Like Windows is pretty solid, it is MS by doing this has lost all credibility as a company that views me as their customer. I don’t need them
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