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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

mholm wrote: post #37
veridies wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think OP's point is that there's one more major use case — gaming — for which Windows has a newly viable competitor. It's not that Linux is going to replace Windows, but that Windows could suffer a death by a thousand cuts. I'll note that more and more offices that I encounter seem to be switching to Chromebooks.

If using Windows is death by a thousand cuts, using Linux is obliteration by ten thousand. Linux has completed 90% of the work, but the last 10% (usability) is a long way away.

Dunno man, I’ve been using Linux on the desktop for almost 3 decades. It’s been ok for me :) conversely I can’t stand using windows for more than a few minutes - luckily I don’t have to do this often.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by pjmlp »

JSRR1991 wrote: post #5

Bad time to be pushing this crap with the Linux desktop wooing the gaming/ power user overlap crowd now that steam deck is on the scene. I have been using Windows my whole life but now I have a PC dedicated to Linux for the 1st time and I'm thinking about seeing one up for my wife, as I'm sure Linux will be perform better on the older laptop I'm considering 'upcycling'. People forget that tech trends often flow outwa…

Those 2% market share are looking great.

The Year of Desktop Linux is as virtual machine running on top of Apple and Microsoft desktop OS, or having the complete userspace replaced like on Google OS offerings.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by Aperocky »

Linux Gaming cannot come fast enough.

I'm so ready to uninstall Windows on my only Windows machine which happened to be a gaming computer, however there are just a few games that I want to play from time to time that does not support Linux.

For now I can live with Windows 10 which had a workable WSL so I can pretend that windows have a terminal (Some modding needs code!)

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by primax »

sharikous wrote: post #52

Windows as a curated platform is a lost case at this point. They probably don't make enough money from it to justify investment. Their market is the enterprise world where they have a lock in, plus gamers and PC users who cannot afford a Mac. It shows. Not a problem for me. I have no issue using a bad OS if a company is paying me for using it, and at home I don't use Windows.

No one seriously games on a Mac.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

datatrashfire wrote: post #14

After years of thinking "wsl2 is enough for me", I switched to fedora as an experiment and I have not looked back once.

For me, Manjaro, and later (purely out of masochism) Arch. :)

I did "look back" for certain AAA games that either don't work on Linux or DO work but their launcher doesn't (e.g., Blizzard), but AAA game companies have done me the solid of hypercommercializing themselves into unbearable mediocrity. So, even if I want to play one of those games now, I'm not too hurried to wait for a few years so Proton support makes it available (plus you get it cheaper, with bugfixes, all DLCs, and your hardware can run it better).

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by joemi »

soulofmischief wrote: post #63
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I’ve always thought that OS discussions needs more tribalism.

If you can't understand the difference between solidarity and tribalism, that's something you should work on. If you can't understand the political, philosophical and sociological nuances of selecting between Windows and Linux as computing environments, and why this is more than just a simple UI preference, that's something you should work on. Sarcasm is also something you should work on. See you next time.

I'm not the person you responded to, and I would never have replied with sarcasm as they did, but "Stoked to see another soul has seen through the smokescreen" comes across as more tribal than solidarity, IMO, if those are the only two options.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by pjmlp »

KronisLV wrote: post #38
veridies wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think OP's point is that there's one more major use case — gaming — for which Windows has a newly viable competitor. It's not that Linux is going to replace Windows, but that Windows could suffer a death by a thousand cuts. I'll note that more and more offices that I encounter seem to be switching to Chromebooks.

I actually wrote about using Linux as a daily driver for a week for everything, gaming included: https://blog.kronis.dev/articles/a-week-of-linux-instead-of-... In short, Proton is making pretty good progress and anyone can check their own Steam library with ProtonDB, to see how many of the titles they care about are likely to work. Out of the popular mainstream games, around a half will work on Linux, whereas in the…

Games developed on Windows desktops, targeted for Windows desktops, running by translating the Windows API.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by oriolid »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #71
mholm wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If using Windows is death by a thousand cuts, using Linux is obliteration by ten thousand. Linux has completed 90% of the work, but the last 10% (usability) is a long way away.

Dunno man, I’ve been using Linux on the desktop for almost 3 decades. It’s been ok for me :) conversely I can’t stand using windows for more than a few minutes - luckily I don’t have to do this often.

If you're a veteran Linux user, you probably know where to look for config files and how to hack them. Trying to use Linux using GUI only, whichever you choose, is awful. It's like the designers copied the worst ideas from both Windows and MacOS on purpose and then added some of their own.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by pjmlp »

als0 wrote: post #15
dzdt wrote: post #10

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Yes 2023 is sure to be the year of the Linux desktop. (/s) The reality is the computer form factor involving a keyboard is slowly becoming more and more of a niche. Windows has a lock on this niche for business and gaming. For other home use there is strong competition from apple and for education there is strong competition from chromebook. Linux is still not really in the running, sorry.

The year of the Linux Desktop already happened, just not in the way people wanted - Android and Chromebooks.

That is the Year of Linux kernel, there is nothing else from GNU/Linux on Android and ChromeOS.
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