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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by azemetre »

Aperocky wrote: post #74

Linux Gaming cannot come fast enough. I'm so ready to uninstall Windows on my only Windows machine which happened to be a gaming computer, however there are just a few games that I want to play from time to time that does not support Linux. For now I can live with Windows 10 which had a workable WSL so I can pretend that windows have a terminal (Some modding needs code!)

I will say myself personally, that after I got my steam deck I haven't turned on my desktop in 6 months. Slowly in the process of converting my windows desktop into a media server. My two laptops are not windows machines.

I have't looked at the steam surveys but I hope there's enough users to encourage more publishers to make games linux compatible.

I know for me personally, all the games I enjoy are available for linux gaming. Even "recent" titles like Spiderman and God of War.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by vips7L »

mhh__ wrote: post #87
dzdt wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes 2023 is sure to be the year of the Linux desktop. (/s) The reality is the computer form factor involving a keyboard is slowly becoming more and more of a niche. Windows has a lock on this niche for business and gaming. For other home use there is strong competition from apple and for education there is strong competition from chromebook. Linux is still not really in the running, sorry.

Soo niche except for 99.99999% of devs

A lot of devs don’t want to tinker with Linux. Myself included. And this is disregarding all of the work places that only give out Windows or MacOS machines.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by chabad360 »

tapoxi wrote: post #55
wincy wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Looking at top PC games lists of 2022, almost all of them are supported on Steam Deck. All the games I’ve played on there run fantastically well. On a sale I bought Assassin’s Creed Odyssey which is an older AAA game and Steam Deck even runs fine.

Anti-Cheat. Most multiplayer shooters will refuse to run under Linux.

Since the announcement of the Steam Deck, Valve has made various promises to work with the AC providers to bring support to Linux. So far they have brought support for Epic's EAC, and it seems they are working on bringing it for other titles as well.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#104

Post by MrStonedOne »

abraxas wrote: post #12

Is there a version of Windows that lets you pay your way out of this bullshit? I may need a Windows machine for work next year and this shit is terrifying. I haven't touched Windows since around 2006 so I'm not familiar with their offerings. They used to have a consumer and a professional edition of Windows in the olden days with the latter being far less annoying.

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by leeoniya »

Slighted wrote: post #90
QuadrupleA wrote: post #53

Sorry for an emotional expletive-laden post here, but this enrages me so much. My computer is my main professional and creative tool, and for MS to do this shit without my permission or control (like it already does with fucking Edge and OneDrive nags every time it installs an update) feels so exploitative, greedy, and evil. And stupid - their execs are chasing myopic short term gains with aggressive stongarm tactics…

Microsoft transitioning Windows into a spyware platform filled with advertisements and garbage has been in the making for years at this point. Its absolutely exploitative, greedy, and evil, which is why if you can you should consider switching to a different operating system, like Linux. At the very least you can transition to using Linux for tasks that work on Linux while keeping around Windows for tasks which requi…

i used to do all sorts of stuff with Windows XP/2000 (like sysprepping reg-tweaked/debloated/pre-loaded Windows ISOs for myself). but now i have fully moved away from Windows to EndeavourOS/KDE and haven't looked back; many others have jumped ship to PoP_OS. yes, you do have to slightly limit/research your hardware options to get a great experience, but i've always been an AMD GPU guy (due to their better thermals / power efficiency), and all of my laptops are Thinkpads w/Intel wifi, so take this with those grains of salt.

i do miss Foobar2000 and HeidiSQL (DeaDBeeF and DBeaver aren't quite as polished), and Affinity products are hard to get running without glitches in Wine/Proton, but otherwise it's been fantastic. though i've had to fiddle quite a bit with Chromium and MPV settings to enable GPU hardware acceleration for video decoding.

first straw was slow filesystem access due to Windows Defender, last straw was unstoppable Windows updates full of ad garbage and apps i previously removed with various debloating scripts. i ran Windows 10 with these addons to get back a more Windows XP experience:

disable TPM v2.0 (keep it at v1.2) to forever prevent Windows 11 upgrades: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/enable-tpm-2-0-o...

debloat: https://github.com/farag2/Sophia-Script-for-Windows. there's also LTSC, but it's basically impossible to purchase an actual license, so you have to pirate it: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/l...

start menu: https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

taskbar: https://ramensoftware.com/7-taskbar-tweaker

search: https://goffconcepts.com/products/filesearchex/index.html

archives: https://www.7-zip.org/

task manager: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/pro...

Notepad replacement: https://github.com/rizonesoft/Notepad3

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by rolph »

dahart wrote: post #35

What really kills me about the ad-spam being added to menus everywhere is that eventually they start having problems and drag my computer to its knees. I end up with behaviors where the Start Menu takes several seconds to appear, or a search will stall, and when navigating folders in the File Explorer have very serious and noticeable drag, taking one or two seconds. So far I’ve eventually been able to figure out how…

a lot of windows people i know, dont bother with a proper shut down anymore, they let it run 24-7, or they just hit the power switch and nuke it all instead of waiting.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by the__alchemist »

Slighted wrote: post #90
QuadrupleA wrote: post #53

Sorry for an emotional expletive-laden post here, but this enrages me so much. My computer is my main professional and creative tool, and for MS to do this shit without my permission or control (like it already does with fucking Edge and OneDrive nags every time it installs an update) feels so exploitative, greedy, and evil. And stupid - their execs are chasing myopic short term gains with aggressive stongarm tactics…

Microsoft transitioning Windows into a spyware platform filled with advertisements and garbage has been in the making for years at this point. Its absolutely exploitative, greedy, and evil, which is why if you can you should consider switching to a different operating system, like Linux. At the very least you can transition to using Linux for tasks that work on Linux while keeping around Windows for tasks which requi…

Linux is a usability mess, and has been for 20 years. I give a new shot once every other year.

Basic flow:

  - Works out of the box for a basic desktop
  - Once you start installing drivers and software outside the package manager (Which you'll need to do immediately) and doing C+P CLI workarounds, the system state starts decaying, and things break.
  - The easiest way to fix things is usually a clean OS reinstall, in the sense of a car "total".

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#108

Post by iuafhiuah »

tapoxi wrote: post #55
wincy wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Looking at top PC games lists of 2022, almost all of them are supported on Steam Deck. All the games I’ve played on there run fantastically well. On a sale I bought Assassin’s Creed Odyssey which is an older AAA game and Steam Deck even runs fine.

Anti-Cheat. Most multiplayer shooters will refuse to run under Linux.

Most is a stretch.

The FPS in the top 100 currently most popular games on Steam[0] and their status [1]:

  #01 CS:GO - native
  #04 PUBG - anticheat
  #05 CoD MW2 - anticheat
  #06 Apex - Works (it has anticheat that works on Linux)
  #07 TF2 - native
  #09 Rust - Works
  #12 Destiny 2 - anticheat
  #21 Rainbow 6 - anticheat
  #22 DayZ - Works (it has anticheat that works on Linux)
  #26 Warframe - Works
  #69 Payday2 - Works
  #78 Arma 3 - Works (it has anticheat that works on Linux)
  #79 CS:S - Native
Native or working: 9/13

Broken: 4/13

Non-steam or outside top-100:

  OW2 - Linux is second class and not actively supported - but Blizzard have unblocked Linux support when issues were reported
  Battlefield (all?) - Works
  CoD (before MW2) - Works
  Gundam Evolution - anticheat
[0] https://store.steampowered.com/charts/mostplayed

[1] https://www.protondb.com/

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#109

Post by MrStonedOne »

tkuraku wrote: post #44

Between the adds infiltrating every part of the os and the arbitrary decision to not allow my computer to run windows 11 (no TPM, though it is plenty fast) I have had enough. I've daily driving Linux for 7-8 years with only occasional windows use. There are certainly some rough edges with Linux, but it is perfectly workable.

TPM2.0 is required because it allows for running of encrypted binaries and microsoft will need that feature to ensure people can't modify away any user hostile features.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#110

Post by coder543 »

null_object wrote: post #99
coder543 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to provide one example, I definitely have seen macOS pop up notifications advertising that Safari is better than everything else, and I should switch back to Safari.

> Just to provide one example, I definitely have seen macOS pop up notifications advertising that Safari is better than everything else, and I should switch back to Safari. I would love to see a screenshot because this I simply don’t believe

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/153379/how-do-you-...

I saw it within the past year. I didn’t save a screenshot anywhere I can find. I believe I applied defaults overrides (like in the link) to prevent it from coming back, much like Windows GPO policies.

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