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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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post #12

Is there a version of Windows that lets you pay your way out of this bullshit? I may need a Windows machine for work next year and this shit is terrifying. I haven't touched Windows since around 2006 so I'm not familiar with their offerings. They used to have a consumer and a professional edition of Windows in the olden days with the latter being far less annoying.

You can use stuff like https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#42
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assure you that Ballmer would at the very forefront of aping the latest disreputable, scummy dark patterns while missing the point and forcing tasteless, trashy, ineffectual money grabs that do much to waste your time and little to benefit Microsoft or anybody else.

I know, I was there, but they didn't fuck with the basics.

But they wanted to. Billy G was still hovering around pouring cold water on some really stupid ideas. He finally relented on getting rid of the start menu and that turned out to be a total disaster.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#44
Between the adds infiltrating every part of the os and the arbitrary decision to not allow my computer to run windows 11 (no TPM, though it is plenty fast) I have had enough. I've daily driving Linux for 7-8 years with only occasional windows use. There are certainly some rough edges with Linux, but it is perfectly workable.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#46
post #6

Was not Win 10 the last operating system version?

Apple stopped using 10.x versions for Mac OS, so Microsoft had to respond.

(I guess the real reason is stuff like the TPM requirements and no 32 bit version meaning it drops support for some systems Windows 10 runs on?)

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#47
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People keep saying this and then run into minor problems becoming bigger problems because frequently used programs end up being unusable or 3rd class citizen, behind both mobile and Mac users. Unless Linux is braindead easy to use without frustrations, it won't happen. Gamers pay more for lesser ease of access increases.

Yes, people are strange. Every problem on Linux is deal breaker, all the problems on Windows aren't.

I mean, this is pretty easily explainable. People have grown up around Windows. The problems for the most part don’t change over time, so people have gotten used to them and have developed their own tried and true ways of doing something that sidesteps the problems they had.

Switching to Linux brings with it a whole new swath of problems and fixes Windows problems so not only are users seeing new issues, their workarounds now have to be worked around because whatever was wrong in Windows works in Linux. Add to that the fact that most Linux users are power users and instructions therefore lean towards that, and you’ve got a problem that also seems insurmountable to solve.

It’s the classic boiling frog dilemma. Windows has just had decades of heating water to get to where we are.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think OP's point is that there's one more major use case — gaming — for which Windows has a newly viable competitor. It's not that Linux is going to replace Windows, but that Windows could suffer a death by a thousand cuts. I'll note that more and more offices that I encounter seem to be switching to Chromebooks.

If you play AAA titles, you’re not moving away from Windows.

With Win 11 I get Micro-stuttering which makes gaming a nightmare. I’ve given up on getting it fixed. I wouldn’t put it past Microsoft to accidentally kill their cash cow via an accumulation of small mistakes and a loss of key competence.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#49
post #5

Bad time to be pushing this crap with the Linux desktop wooing the gaming/ power user overlap crowd now that steam deck is on the scene. I have been using Windows my whole life but now I have a PC dedicated to Linux for the 1st time and I'm thinking about seeing one up for my wife, as I'm sure Linux will be perform better on the older laptop I'm considering 'upcycling'. People forget that tech trends often flow outwa…

Off topic but I really wish the regular old mouse and scroll wheel would work ”normally” straight out the box on fedora/ubuntu/etc. It’s really such a horrible experience coming from Windows when using the mouse is all icky not having ”proper” (Windows default) acceleration on and scroll wheel scrolling one line at a time.

Like many people I really want to make the jump but still hang on to Windows via O&O Shutup 10.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

#50
post #44

Between the adds infiltrating every part of the os and the arbitrary decision to not allow my computer to run windows 11 (no TPM, though it is plenty fast) I have had enough. I've daily driving Linux for 7-8 years with only occasional windows use. There are certainly some rough edges with Linux, but it is perfectly workable.

I installed Windows 11 last week, disabled all personalization/tracking/ads settings I could find and I don't think I've noticed any ads whatsoever.
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