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Re: Iran abolishes morality police

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It isn't universally that way: Trump showed how to subvert the system. But the 2016 election showed how the powerful elites in the Democratic party subverted the people's will and installed an extremely unpopular candidate they wanted. Then of course the people spoke in the general election that they didn't want her, and disaster ensued. In most elections, the candidates were ones the rich elites wanted there. But th…

> But the 2016 election showed how the powerful elites in the Democratic party subverted the people's will and installed an extremely unpopular candidate they wanted. Utter nonsense. Clinton beat the next candidate by a double digit vote percentage in the primaries. That's a landslide. Sanders won a bunch of party caucuses, and it's caucuses that ignore the will of the people and only consider the preferences of part…

Another crazy Clinton supporter who screams "the election was stolen!!" You sound just like the Trumpers. If she was so popular, why did she lose in the general election?

Re: Iran abolishes morality police

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> But the 2016 election showed how the powerful elites in the Democratic party subverted the people's will and installed an extremely unpopular candidate they wanted. Utter nonsense. Clinton beat the next candidate by a double digit vote percentage in the primaries. That's a landslide. Sanders won a bunch of party caucuses, and it's caucuses that ignore the will of the people and only consider the preferences of part…

Another crazy Clinton supporter who screams "the election was stolen!!" You sound just like the Trumpers. If she was so popular, why did she lose in the general election?

Where did I say the election was stolen or that Clinton was popular? I merely said that she beat Sanders by a landslide. You appear to be brainwashed into not only thinking the nomination was stolen from Sanders but also that I said things that I had not.

This sort of muddled thinking is exactly what the disinformation campaign was aiming for. No such campaign happened in 2008, or you might even be crying about how the nomination was stolen from Clinton, who lost the primary vote by a percentage point margin two orders of magnitude less than Sanders.

Re: Iran abolishes morality police

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I don't want to defend the Chinese government, but the transitions of power in China have been peaceful since Deng Xiaoping.

> the dictator will never peacefully transfer power to a rival. Was Xi Jingping an open rival to Hu Jintao? Given Xi Jingping has purged his rivals from the levers of power, do you see any possibility that he'll peacefully stand down in 5 years to someone who is ideologically opposed to his government?

Stepping down peacefully in 5 years seems pretty unlikely. Stepping down peacefully in about 10 years, in favor of a younger leader who's amassed political power either within or outside of his camp seems entirely possible. Some previous examples of a rival taking power peacefully in China or the USSR are with Brezhnev displacing Khruschev and Deng Xiaoping displacing Hua Guofeng.

I don't think Xi Jingping was really an open rival to Hu Jintao, but the nature of these sort of authoritarian governments is the rivalry is not really made open until the point at which the power transition happens, even if it obvious to those behind the scenes. A rival usually careful cultivates political support while openly declaring support for the leader until he has enough support to gain power. Certainly the way Xi Jingping has behaved toward the Hu Jintao/Jiang Zemin faction and the policies he has pushed indicate he is rivals with them.

But really, the main point of my comment was rejecting the assertion that it is impossible for peaceful transitions of power to occur in countries like China. As long as a country has a norm that removal from leadership does not lead to physical harm, peaceful transitions of power are possible. I'm not trying to create a false equivalency between these governments and liberal democracies.

Re: Iran abolishes morality police

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Israel is corrupt and Iran is a dictatorship. If another party decides who can have power in the elected body - that party has power. That's what has happened to Hong Kong, and it's what happens in Iran.

>Israel is corrupt How so?

You don't end up with Netanyahu term after term without corruption. He's a symptom and a cause of something bad happening in their government.
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