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Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by yladiz »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #68
yladiz wrote: post #59

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What would be an appropriate price?

I don't care too much about the price. I'm happy to pay a premium for great software that I use almost all the time. I would not subscribe to anything recurrent though.

I get it, especially for a desktop software. I think Sublime’s new model is a good balance, in that you get updates for 3(?) years from license purchase, and after you can still use it as it was when the license ran out, but need to pay for the updates from then on. It does nag you but you can disable the update check and the only visible thing is in the corner saying you should buy a new license.

I think a subscription model can work if done right. It’s unreasonable to expect work on software to be free (and great if it is, like with so many open source programs and libraries), but it also isn’t okay to require payment in perpetuity just to use the program. With these in mind I think models like Sublime’s or Sketch’s are the right balance.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by packetlost »

d_tr wrote: post #69
packetlost wrote: post #58

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It's MacOS only, sadly

According to their FAQ, there will be Windows, Linux, and web builds before version 1.0 though.

Yeah. I got into the beta and fortunately have a Mac device to run it on. Just tempering expectations.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by smoldesu »

shrimp_emoji wrote: post #66
smoldesu wrote: post #64

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Free? It's a text editor, not World of Warcraft.

Does it have ads between opening new document tabs, like mobile text editors? :D

Do they? You must be using some pretty terrible mobile text editors...

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by smoldesu »

yladiz wrote: post #71
stephc_int13 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't care too much about the price. I'm happy to pay a premium for great software that I use almost all the time. I would not subscribe to anything recurrent though.

I get it, especially for a desktop software. I think Sublime’s new model is a good balance, in that you get updates for 3(?) years from license purchase, and after you can still use it as it was when the license ran out, but need to pay for the updates from then on. It does nag you but you can disable the update check and the only visible thing is in the corner saying you should buy a new license. I think a subscript…

Sublime's "new model" is the same one the DAW industry has used to scalp career musicians for years. You know what that inspired? Piracy. Lots and lots of piracy. Just look at Avid's premium offerings - oppressively expensive recurring licenses that force any hobbyist musician to pirate the software. Or look at IDA Pro, same principle applies there.

Obviously it's my fault for expecting anyone to build Mac software for free, but there are already great (free!) native text editors on Mac. If you're paying $100 for a cocoa UI version of software that already exists, frankly you're a fool.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by yladiz »

smoldesu wrote: post #74
yladiz wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get it, especially for a desktop software. I think Sublime’s new model is a good balance, in that you get updates for 3(?) years from license purchase, and after you can still use it as it was when the license ran out, but need to pay for the updates from then on. It does nag you but you can disable the update check and the only visible thing is in the corner saying you should buy a new license. I think a subscript…

Sublime's "new model" is the same one the DAW industry has used to scalp career musicians for years. You know what that inspired? Piracy. Lots and lots of piracy. Just look at Avid's premium offerings - oppressively expensive recurring licenses that force any hobbyist musician to pirate the software. Or look at IDA Pro, same principle applies there. Obviously it's my fault for expecting anyone to build Mac software f…

I don’t quite get it. Are you seriously saying that people who pay for software that has a free alternative are fools?

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by IshKebab »

satvikpendem wrote: post #60
stephc_int13 wrote: post #54

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This is a problem directly related to the quality/ease of use of frameworks. In practice, all the facilities provided by Electron could be provided by a mix of standard libraries and system calls. Electron solves a bunch of tedious problems in a nice cross-platform package. The performance cost is OK for most people, especially with high quality projects such as VSCode. Unfortunately, I don't see any big player inves…

Tauri, Flutter, and some Rust based GUI frameworks all come to mind.

Tauri doesn't solve any of the problems of Electron except download size, and it trades that off for a more annoying developer experience.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by hejaodbsidndbd »

smoldesu wrote: post #63
rstupek wrote: post #55

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How is it insulting of them to want to charge for their software?

My Macbook cost ~$1,000, I'm not going to pay 1/10th of that price for a text editor that works on a single machine. I'd even buy Sublime before giving Nova an honest shot.

This is the worst take

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by rstupek »

smoldesu wrote: post #63
rstupek wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it insulting of them to want to charge for their software?

My Macbook cost ~$1,000, I'm not going to pay 1/10th of that price for a text editor that works on a single machine. I'd even buy Sublime before giving Nova an honest shot.

I guess I don't see the correlation. If your time isn't worth spending $100 for a text editor then you probably shouldn't

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by smoldesu »

yladiz wrote: post #75
smoldesu wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime's "new model" is the same one the DAW industry has used to scalp career musicians for years. You know what that inspired? Piracy. Lots and lots of piracy. Just look at Avid's premium offerings - oppressively expensive recurring licenses that force any hobbyist musician to pirate the software. Or look at IDA Pro, same principle applies there. Obviously it's my fault for expecting anyone to build Mac software f…

I don’t quite get it. Are you seriously saying that people who pay for software that has a free alternative are fools?

In the case of text editors, yes.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by smoldesu »

hejaodbsidndbd wrote: post #77
smoldesu wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My Macbook cost ~$1,000, I'm not going to pay 1/10th of that price for a text editor that works on a single machine. I'd even buy Sublime before giving Nova an honest shot.

This is the worst take

Speak for yourself, I get to edit text and keep my $100.
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