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Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by stephc_int13 »

hokumguru wrote: post #50
_hao wrote: post #46

How about we actually create more performant native tools? I'm sick of the trend where we have this beastly hardware and things are actually getting slower and slower with each generation.

Nova by Panic is in this vein of bringing back great native software but the community remains small

Because they cornered themselves into a niche by using an Apple-only stack.

Sublime Text is available on all three desktop OSes, built with C++/OpenGL for the performance intensive parts, and it works beautifully.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by smoldesu »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #51
hokumguru wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nova by Panic is in this vein of bringing back great native software but the community remains small

Because they cornered themselves into a niche by using an Apple-only stack. Sublime Text is available on all three desktop OSes, built with C++/OpenGL for the performance intensive parts, and it works beautifully.

Yep. They also charge $100 for their full license (not even perpetual btw) which is down-right insulting. I wouldn't even download their demo on my Mac.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by smoldesu »

_hao wrote: post #46

How about we actually create more performant native tools? I'm sick of the trend where we have this beastly hardware and things are actually getting slower and slower with each generation.

Maybe you should ask your OS author to do that instead of begging the community to make a product for you. This isn't even based around the concept of making the greatest text editor, just reviving an old one that people like.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by stephc_int13 »

_hao wrote: post #46

How about we actually create more performant native tools? I'm sick of the trend where we have this beastly hardware and things are actually getting slower and slower with each generation.

This is a problem directly related to the quality/ease of use of frameworks.

In practice, all the facilities provided by Electron could be provided by a mix of standard libraries and system calls.

Electron solves a bunch of tedious problems in a nice cross-platform package. The performance cost is OK for most people, especially with high quality projects such as VSCode.

Unfortunately, I don't see any big player investing time and money in a nice cross-platform native framework that could offer the same capabilities as Electron.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by rstupek »

smoldesu wrote: post #52
stephc_int13 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they cornered themselves into a niche by using an Apple-only stack. Sublime Text is available on all three desktop OSes, built with C++/OpenGL for the performance intensive parts, and it works beautifully.

Yep. They also charge $100 for their full license (not even perpetual btw) which is down-right insulting. I wouldn't even download their demo on my Mac.

How is it insulting of them to want to charge for their software?

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by CharlesW »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #51
hokumguru wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nova by Panic is in this vein of bringing back great native software but the community remains small

Because they cornered themselves into a niche by using an Apple-only stack. Sublime Text is available on all three desktop OSes, built with C++/OpenGL for the performance intensive parts, and it works beautifully.

> Because they cornered themselves into a niche by using an Apple-only stack.

HN: We demand native IDEs.

Panic: Here's a native IDE that uses platform APIs for the most native look and feel possible.

HN: That's too native, idiots.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by packetlost »

CharlesW wrote: post #56
stephc_int13 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they cornered themselves into a niche by using an Apple-only stack. Sublime Text is available on all three desktop OSes, built with C++/OpenGL for the performance intensive parts, and it works beautifully.

> Because they cornered themselves into a niche by using an Apple-only stack. HN: We demand native IDEs. Panic: Here's a native IDE that uses platform APIs for the most native look and feel possible. HN: That's too native, idiots.

"Cross-platform" is attached to those statements 90% of the time, including this time, but go on.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by yladiz »

smoldesu wrote: post #52
stephc_int13 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they cornered themselves into a niche by using an Apple-only stack. Sublime Text is available on all three desktop OSes, built with C++/OpenGL for the performance intensive parts, and it works beautifully.

Yep. They also charge $100 for their full license (not even perpetual btw) which is down-right insulting. I wouldn't even download their demo on my Mac.

What would be an appropriate price?

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Post by satvikpendem »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #54
_hao wrote: post #46

How about we actually create more performant native tools? I'm sick of the trend where we have this beastly hardware and things are actually getting slower and slower with each generation.

This is a problem directly related to the quality/ease of use of frameworks. In practice, all the facilities provided by Electron could be provided by a mix of standard libraries and system calls. Electron solves a bunch of tedious problems in a nice cross-platform package. The performance cost is OK for most people, especially with high quality projects such as VSCode. Unfortunately, I don't see any big player inves…

Tauri, Flutter, and some Rust based GUI frameworks all come to mind.
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