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Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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What does Atom offer over alternatives, in particular Visual Studio Code?

I really miss Atom. I'll enumerate some items here, since you asked, but all of them really just boil down to personal preference: * Atom was hackable from the ground-up. I use a VS Code extension called Customize UI that allows me to write custom CSS, but Atom supported custom CSS as a first-class feature. * Nostalgia: Atom was the first text editor I used, and so it has a certain friendliness than other editors can…

If you like Lapce, try Helix.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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How about we actually create more performant native tools? I'm sick of the trend where we have this beastly hardware and things are actually getting slower and slower with each generation.

This is a problem directly related to the quality/ease of use of frameworks. In practice, all the facilities provided by Electron could be provided by a mix of standard libraries and system calls. Electron solves a bunch of tedious problems in a nice cross-platform package. The performance cost is OK for most people, especially with high quality projects such as VSCode. Unfortunately, I don't see any big player inves…

Qt was the de facto standard before electron

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Yep. They also charge $100 for their full license (not even perpetual btw) which is down-right insulting. I wouldn't even download their demo on my Mac.

How is it insulting of them to want to charge for their software?

My Macbook cost ~$1,000, I'm not going to pay 1/10th of that price for a text editor that works on a single machine. I'd even buy Sublime before giving Nova an honest shot.

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Yep. They also charge $100 for their full license (not even perpetual btw) which is down-right insulting. I wouldn't even download their demo on my Mac.

What would be an appropriate price?

Free? It's a text editor, not World of Warcraft.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Because they cornered themselves into a niche by using an Apple-only stack. Sublime Text is available on all three desktop OSes, built with C++/OpenGL for the performance intensive parts, and it works beautifully.

> Because they cornered themselves into a niche by using an Apple-only stack. HN: We demand native IDEs. Panic: Here's a native IDE that uses platform APIs for the most native look and feel possible. HN: That's too native, idiots.

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Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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This is a problem directly related to the quality/ease of use of frameworks. In practice, all the facilities provided by Electron could be provided by a mix of standard libraries and system calls. Electron solves a bunch of tedious problems in a nice cross-platform package. The performance cost is OK for most people, especially with high quality projects such as VSCode. Unfortunately, I don't see any big player inves…

Qt was the de facto standard before electron

Yes, and it is half-decent.

Still bloated and complex IMHO.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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Yep. They also charge $100 for their full license (not even perpetual btw) which is down-right insulting. I wouldn't even download their demo on my Mac.

What would be an appropriate price?

I don't care too much about the price.

I'm happy to pay a premium for great software that I use almost all the time.

I would not subscribe to anything recurrent though.

Re: Pulsar: A Community Effort to Revive the Atom Text Editor

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There is a new editor called zed from atom developers featuring native performance and CRDT collaboration.

It's MacOS only, sadly

According to their FAQ, there will be Windows, Linux, and web builds before version 1.0 though.

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VSCodium works fine for me too.

I want to try VSCodium so much but the fact they use self signed certs leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I know it’s probably a whole lot of nothing, but if I install it on my work computer and something happens because of it I would be in a massive pickle.

I don't know if this falls into the "can't be bothered" category, but it's not horrific to build it by yourself, side-stepping whatever self-signed cert woes you're talking about
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