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Re: Beware of the perfect gentleman

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Post by 3pt14159 »

teux wrote: post #118
markus_zhang wrote: post #7

I have been constantly harrased by accounts with pretty girl pictures on LinkedIn, wish they could do something. Why did I know they are fake? One, I'm not handsome, neither do I work in those high status companies, why did they reach out to me? Two, they look more like models than software engineers. Completely bullshit.

> Two, they look more like models than software engineers. Completely bullshit. Can I push back against this? It’s toxic as fuck. Being a woman in tech blows. You can’t be pretty or you’re considered incompetent and shallow. You can’t be ugly or you’re treated poorly for that. It’s a loose-loose. What does a software engineer look like to you, then?

Are you a woman in tech?

The reason that I ask is that your account is pretty new and this seems a little bit like stowing up discord on social media.

Regardless. There is a difference between a beautiful woman that can code (these are actually getting more and more prevalent) and the trashy looking profile picture that all of us instantly know is some kind of spammer or scammer in our DMs or our inbox.

The fact that they're portrayed as woman has more to do with the loneliness of many men in tech than anything else and pretending that this type of behaviour is non-existent is childish when it's clear that places like LinkedIn and Twitter could do a lot more to detect it and prevent it.

Re: Beware of the perfect gentleman

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Post by BlargMcLarg »

teux wrote: post #118
markus_zhang wrote: post #7

I have been constantly harrased by accounts with pretty girl pictures on LinkedIn, wish they could do something. Why did I know they are fake? One, I'm not handsome, neither do I work in those high status companies, why did they reach out to me? Two, they look more like models than software engineers. Completely bullshit.

> Two, they look more like models than software engineers. Completely bullshit. Can I push back against this? It’s toxic as fuck. Being a woman in tech blows. You can’t be pretty or you’re considered incompetent and shallow. You can’t be ugly or you’re treated poorly for that. It’s a loose-loose. What does a software engineer look like to you, then?

The average woman is fairly well treated and not at all like the average LinkedIn stalker, let alone a model. You're trying to bridge two related but different contexts

Re: Beware of the perfect gentleman

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Post by walthamstow »

danwee wrote: post #115
markus_zhang wrote: post #7

I have been constantly harrased by accounts with pretty girl pictures on LinkedIn, wish they could do something. Why did I know they are fake? One, I'm not handsome, neither do I work in those high status companies, why did they reach out to me? Two, they look more like models than software engineers. Completely bullshit.

You mean female recruiters? For some reason, all the female recruiters I know (on Linkedin) are rather attractive. Maybe there is some logic behind it.

My brother and his girlfriend are tech recruiters here in London.

They are both very conventionally attractive people, but it's not their image that makes them good at their jobs per se, IMO it's having the confidence and charm of a person who has gone through life always being attractive.

If a less attractive person had that confidence, charm, charisma, whatever you call it - and some do - they would also be successful.

Re: Beware of the perfect gentleman

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Post by xwolfi »

teux wrote: post #118
markus_zhang wrote: post #7

I have been constantly harrased by accounts with pretty girl pictures on LinkedIn, wish they could do something. Why did I know they are fake? One, I'm not handsome, neither do I work in those high status companies, why did they reach out to me? Two, they look more like models than software engineers. Completely bullshit.

> Two, they look more like models than software engineers. Completely bullshit. Can I push back against this? It’s toxic as fuck. Being a woman in tech blows. You can’t be pretty or you’re considered incompetent and shallow. You can’t be ugly or you’re treated poorly for that. It’s a loose-loose. What does a software engineer look like to you, then?

ok but do you really need to look like a model on Linkedin ? You can be pretty, but is being ultra sexy really that important there ?

He didnt say they were random girls like we meet every day, he said model. When men contact me on linkedin for insurance products and they look like Calvin Klein underweare models, Im like "hum" too.

Re: Beware of the perfect gentleman

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Post by xwolfi »

3pt14159 wrote: post #121
teux wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Two, they look more like models than software engineers. Completely bullshit. Can I push back against this? It’s toxic as fuck. Being a woman in tech blows. You can’t be pretty or you’re considered incompetent and shallow. You can’t be ugly or you’re treated poorly for that. It’s a loose-loose. What does a software engineer look like to you, then?

Are you a woman in tech? The reason that I ask is that your account is pretty new and this seems a little bit like stowing up discord on social media. Regardless. There is a difference between a beautiful woman that can code (these are actually getting more and more prevalent) and the trashy looking profile picture that all of us instantly know is some kind of spammer or scammer in our DMs or our inbox. The fact that…

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Re: Beware of the perfect gentleman

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Post by RickJWagner »

Of interest: "The male voice, tinged with a Southern-sounding accent, stopped him cold: I’m going to slit your throat."

What would you think if Vice had written:

"The male voice, tinged with a Black-sounding accent...."

"The male voice, tinged with an Asian-sounding accent...."

"The male voice, tinged with an Italian-sounding accent...."

Why of course you'd think "That publication is hate mongering! They're trying to subtly guide the reader to bad thoughts about their target!"

Which is exactly true.

Re: Beware of the perfect gentleman

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Post by acdha »

shawn-butler wrote: post #59

From a technical perspective why isn't this a solved problem? Identity will always be a difficult problem, but being able to own your own face / likeness by demonstrating it should be technically possible right? Forced visual "captchas" something like "please take a photo standing on one foot and your finger pointed at your nose" Then once you own your likeness with "faceID" likeness similarity isn't it then easy to…

It’s a question of cost. Facebook has a billion users, if they can save $0.10 per user someone just got a promotion.

Here’s a related question: every day, people lose access to their Google or Facebook accounts. This could easily be solved with some process where they could get a third party (librarian, notary, police or DMV, etc.) to do an ID check. Nobody does this because the cost would be greater than zero.

Re: Beware of the perfect gentleman

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Post by TeMPOraL »

whatshisface wrote: post #78
pcthrowaway wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soon enough, DALL-E may be able to tweak any face to make it scam-worthy, and GPT will be able to complement it to pluck the heartstrings just so

It would be easier to start from scratch.

There's some 20 years of lead time, but if you're willing to wait and have the capital to scale up early, after those two decades you'll have a money printer.

Re: Beware of the perfect gentleman

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Post by dmurray »

checkyoursudo wrote: post #111
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bingo. For example, if you watch Youtube from a very poor country, you might not see any ads.

"Buy our vpn service in $low_income_country and ditch your youtube subscription!" arbitrage opportunity for someone?

This is definitely going on already.

Here's a VPN company advertising "a VPN server located in a region that offers cheaper games, in-app purchases, products, etc." and if other VPN providers don't explicitly advertise this benefit, they know some of their customers are using their product for that reason.

https://www.vpnunlimited.com/help/solutions/saving-with-regi...

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