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Re: Wikipedia will be leaving GoDaddy

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Will GitHub boycott GoDaddy because of their support for SOPA?

That would be great. Maybe there should be a new open source software license featuring total denial of rights to use to the MPAA/RIAA member companies too.

Although I agree with these goals of such a move (fighting SOPA) such a licence would not be considered an open source or free software licence by the OSI or FSF. A licence must not discriminate based on endeavour.

Re: Wikipedia will be leaving GoDaddy

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Will GitHub boycott GoDaddy because of their support for SOPA?

That would be great. Maybe there should be a new open source software license featuring total denial of rights to use to the MPAA/RIAA member companies too.

The closest I could think of is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrimethInc._N%C2%A9!_license. But I think I'll stick with the GPL and WTFPL.

Re: Wikipedia will be leaving GoDaddy

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No, that would be bad. If open, it should allow everyone. The goal is to unite not segregate after all.

The goal is to unite not segregate after all Who says that? Why should you unite with your enemy?

"killing with kindness"

"Embrace, extend and extinguish"

There's probably a few in Art of War too.

Re: Wikipedia will be leaving GoDaddy

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It's interesting that they're being criticized. One of the three responses on the page (the other two being positive) is: "This is an overtly political decision. Poor form."

And who's to say that negative comment isn't the work of an astro-turfing lobbyist.

They've certainly got means, motivation and opportunity.

Re: Wikipedia will be leaving GoDaddy

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It's interesting that they're being criticized. One of the three responses on the page (the other two being positive) is: "This is an overtly political decision. Poor form."

It is a political decision, but it is directly related to an issue that could spell doom for wikipedia. Non-profits still get to have a say in issues that relate to their own survival.

Exactly. Certain "wikipedians" seem to hold neutrality with high regard while ignoring the fact that Switzerland has the luxury of neutrality because they are willing to act in their own defense. These wikipedians confuse pacifism with neutrality.

Re: Wikipedia will be leaving GoDaddy

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It's interesting that they're being criticized. One of the three responses on the page (the other two being positive) is: "This is an overtly political decision. Poor form."

Personally I think one should be deeply ashamed of backing away from an issue because it may be seen as "political".

Fact is that I doubt Wikipedia would have been possible in an environment where censorship and action without due process is seen as acceptable. Actually, access to wikipedia has been limited in the past by regimes that we consider totalitarian, or near-totalitarian, and the very action of censoring the web has been pointed out as a concrete manifestation of lack of democracy.

Democracy in the west has been weakened gradually over the past years. To a large degree because the population is helpless when it comes to influencing policy; we don't know how to act.

So when a clear opportunity to be heard presents itself I find it disgraceful that thoughtless and unprincipled people promote apathy and inaction. They should be deeply ashamed of themselves.

Re: Wikipedia will be leaving GoDaddy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a political decision, but it is directly related to an issue that could spell doom for wikipedia. Non-profits still get to have a say in issues that relate to their own survival.

Exactly. Certain "wikipedians" seem to hold neutrality with high regard while ignoring the fact that Switzerland has the luxury of neutrality because they are willing to act in their own defense. These wikipedians confuse pacifism with neutrality.

Do not confuse stupidity with neutrality. An organism which makes no effort to avoid its extinction, especially when it can do so in a peaceful manner, has forfeit its evolutionary right to exist.

I hope the wikipedians in question will take some time to think about how their passive stance actually ends up jeopardizing their neutrality, and that once they have gotten their shit together, feel enough shame to apologize for being part of the problem.

I'm disgusted.

Re: Wikipedia will be leaving GoDaddy

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In a longer run this may not look as good for Wikipedia as it does now. It shows that they are willing to sacrifice their cultural values, particularly neutrality, for other impromptu values that Jimmy sees fit to promote. It also shows that they are willing to turn on their business partners and screw them. This is the logical next step part of a much longer trend on Wikipedia, that of the solidification of power in…

>> It shows that they are willing to sacrifice their cultural values, particularly neutrality, for other impromptu values that Jimmy sees fit to promote

Opposing SOPA is a must for wikipedia to maintain neutrality. Else, soon you will see that most of the so called controversial articles on wikipedia are no longer available because it will make it mandatory on the part of wikipedia to remove them.

And moving their domain from Godaddy is the right thing to do.

Re: Wikipedia will be leaving GoDaddy

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The goal is to unite not segregate after all Who says that? Why should you unite with your enemy?

Basic of free speech means allowing hateful stuff too. The more you forbid the less free it is (whatever "it" is).

allowing is not the same as supporting
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