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We often tend to “trust” well-written articles or comments written in an authoratitive factual style. Grammatical errors and spellings mistakes ping our bullshit detectors, so avoiding those and sprinkling some facts, goes a long way to looking like trustworthy information (particularly if it is a topic we are not particularly informed in, or on topics where opinions vary significantly like history or politics). The…

You know, before I started reading, I knew what you were doing. You made it very clear in your first sentence. But halfway through I really did start to wonder if there was some kind of screw artery. I started wondering where the truth ends and the jokes began.

Yeah it is freaky. Here’s a blog post (edited to remove some gushy PR style fluff, and mixed in some sentences from more than one generated answer, plus some other redaction by me. But all based on generated text):

  As a startup founder, you may not think that eating chocolate has any benefit to your business. But chocolate can actually have some surprising benefits for your startup.

  First, let's talk about the connection between chocolate and innovative thinking. Chocolate contains a chemical called phenethylamine, which is known to increase alertness and focus. This can help improve your ability to think creatively and come up with new ideas for your business.

  Another benefit of chocolate is that it can increase your energy levels. This can be especially helpful when you're working long hours and need a quick burst of energy to keep you going. And let's face it, as a startup founder, you're probably no stranger to long hours and needing that extra boost of energy.

  Chocolate can also help with stress and anxiety. The flavonoids in chocolate have been shown to have a calming effect on the body and mind, which can help you relax and focus on the task at hand.

  There are more benefits can specifically help your startup. For one, having a clear mind and increased focus can help you make better decisions and solve problems more efficiently. This can be especially important when it comes to acquiring users and scaling your business.

  Also let's not forget about the marketing aspect. Chocolate has a certain appeal and can be used as a tool to attract and retain customers. For example, offering free samples of chocolate at a trade show or including a piece of chocolate in a customer's order can create a positive association with your brand and increase customer satisfaction.

  For example, take a company like AirBnB. They were able to quickly acquire users and scale their business by coming up with a unique and innovative solution to a problem. Chocolate helped them think more clearly and come up with that idea. AirBnB has also successfully used chocolate as a marketing tool. The company famously offered guests a complimentary bar of chocolate with a personalized message upon arrival, a gesture that was well-received and helped to create a positive brand association.

  Many founders of companies such as Stripe, Dropbox, and LinkedIn have been known to use chocolate professionally. Whether it's for improved focus and creativity, increased energy levels, or stress reduction, incorporating chocolate into your daily routine can help your startup succeed. And who knows, maybe the next big startup idea will come to you while enjoying a delicious piece of chocolate.
How much are these GPT models already used by our adversaries (political, business, advertising)? The major impediment for sme foreign products and some scammers was the language barrier. The GPT writes English better than many people that learnt it natively!

I am looking forward to showing this tool to my dyslexic or nearly illiterate friends - I wonder how much they can use it to produce better outcomes in their lives?

Re: AI Homework

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How easy do you think it is to spot when AI is being used?

As per my example in another comment, it seems to be extremely easy to detect ChatGPT output today. Indeed, to me, surprisingly so.

The default style is such by design. If you ask for very concise, single paragraph answers it gets hard.

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> If this were a test question, the response given would be marked wrong, likely with no partial credit awarded. Probably. So, don't use ChatGPT unsupervised to take tests.

How can you use it anywhere? If you need to know enough about a subject to judge whether an answer it gives is correct why would you need it in the first place?

Endeavours in which someone getd benefits in throughput by working with less skilled collaborators whose work they supervise, review, and send back with comments for rework when it is flawed are...not uncommon.

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Today? In images? Quite easy. In text? Pretty hard. And if you do some cheking and editing then pretty impossible? In two years? Look where the space was two years ago. I think many things will have to change.

GPT-3 definitely has a writing style. I assume it would be detectable, ironically, by an AI.

if it's detectable by an AI, you can GAN it into erasing its detectable writing style.

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Well, suppose there's two reasons his daughter has this assignment. 1. To learn the content of European history. For this, a chatbot is no different than Google, Wikipedia, or a dusty leather almanac. They do a job, they have known limitations, and you can use them deliberately. This doesn't concern me. 2. To learn how to write, capturing complex ideas and presenting them clearly. This is a skill that takes decades t…

> They do a job, they have known limitations, and you can use them deliberately.

I think you're severely underplaying this (as many other commenters are). Google, Wikipedia and a dusty leather almanac are, for typical use cases, mostly right - and when they are wrong, they're wrong in specific ways you can quickly learn to spot and correct for. The output of GPTChat, or Copilot, is mostly wrong. Sometimes overtly, usually subtly, almost always randomly wrong. And since the problem domain is open-ended, you can't just make the GPT-3 output right by logically inverting it - there are many more possible wrong answers the model could give you than there are right answers.

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Think of it as information, not voltage. An XOR produces information. A lot of XORS with ANDs make a calculator which opens up an entire vectorspace of mathematical information.

I try to. One similar thing comes to my mind: generative adversarial networks (GANs). If I'm not mistaken this is along the line of your idea of composing single ML models to bigger information processing units. Do you, by any chance, have links or recommendations for material to read up on architectures that do consider ML models as composable gates?

No materials, it is something I thought up back in March.

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As per my example in another comment, it seems to be extremely easy to detect ChatGPT output today. Indeed, to me, surprisingly so.

The default style is such by design. If you ask for very concise, single paragraph answers it gets hard.

Sure, it's going to be harder to run detection on a short snippet. But a short snippet also isn't very useful in the context of writing a school paper for you.

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Today? In images? Quite easy. In text? Pretty hard. And if you do some cheking and editing then pretty impossible? In two years? Look where the space was two years ago. I think many things will have to change.

GPT-3 definitely has a writing style. I assume it would be detectable, ironically, by an AI.

GPT-3 definitely has a writing style that can be detected by AI. But here's the thing: it's really easy to change its writing style. All you have to do is give it different input data and boom, you've got a whole new writing style.

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One of my subjects at highchool was technical drawing. The teacher was a quite old man who was set on his ways. We would have to draw 3D pieces by hand, using our squares, bevels and compasses, and lining everything with an ink pencil afterwards, and he gave us a lot of homework to do, which he examined for imperfections. I was incredibly bad a it. I would start a drawing, only to discover halfway through it that it…

How easy do you think it is to spot when AI is being used?

I asked ChatGPT how to write texts so it can be identified as human generated.

The answer: "One way to make it clear that a text is not generated by AI is to include a joke or riddle that is difficult for a machine to understand or generate. For example, you could include a joke that relies on wordplay or a complex pun. Here is an example:

Why was the math book sad?

Because it had too many problems."

Re: AI Homework

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How easy do you think it is to spot when AI is being used?

As per my example in another comment, it seems to be extremely easy to detect ChatGPT output today. Indeed, to me, surprisingly so.

I don't think it's as easy to detect ChatGPT output as you're making it out to be. Sure, it might be possible to detect it if you know what you're looking for, but to the average person, it's not that obvious.
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