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Drowning in AI Generated Garbage: the silent war we are fighting

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Re: Drowning in AI Generated Garbage: the silent war we are fighting

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Upload your fake text and images anywhere. Upload it everywhere. Upload it as yourself. Upload it on behest of your willing friends. Corrupt your face in dozens of ways, then tag each as yourself. When everything is garbage, shadow profiles will mean nothing, social credit scores will mean nothing, analytics will mean nothing. Centralization can be turned on its head - the watering hole will be revealed to be the dangerous cesspit it is. Create art until what can be monetized has no value. Create news that never happened, scoops that are only a distant fiction, until nothing on the internet can even be meaningfully reported on. The corrosive powers of mass memetics for the first time can be rendered entirely impotent.

Re: Drowning in AI Generated Garbage: the silent war we are fighting

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Upload your fake text and images anywhere. Upload it everywhere. Upload it as yourself. Upload it on behest of your willing friends. Corrupt your face in dozens of ways, then tag each as yourself. When everything is garbage, shadow profiles will mean nothing, social credit scores will mean nothing, analytics will mean nothing. Centralization can be turned on its head - the watering hole will be revealed to be the dan…

Now you see why tribes form by evolution just as mutation does.

Re: Drowning in AI Generated Garbage: the silent war we are fighting

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post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone is (rightfully) picking on your GMO example, but I want to address something else: > Today, it's self-evident to us as consumers when a product is cheap, low-quality, manufactured garbage from China. Correct. > In many cases we can choose to spend more and buy a handmade or custom version of the product we want. Not quite. It's increasingly hard to find a version of a product that's not low-quality garbage -…

As somebody who would ordinarily look for products in this "more expensive, reasonable quality" category, I feel this comment so hard :( I've actually started building my own furniture from raw wood etc. just because it's impossible to find anything that costs less than $1000 that isn't just cardboard and MDF with a veneer. At least with furniture there's a market for "solid wood". But in so many other industries you…

You might be interested in "Autoprogettazione" by Enzo Mari.

Re: Drowning in AI Generated Garbage: the silent war we are fighting

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I see parallels here with industrialization and automation in manufacturing and food production. Today, it's self-evident to us as consumers when a product is cheap, low-quality, manufactured garbage from China. In many cases we can choose to spend more and buy a handmade or custom version of the product we want. In the future we might knowingly consume AI-generated cheap text for some purposes and opt for "the real…

Everyone is (rightfully) picking on your GMO example, but I want to address something else: > Today, it's self-evident to us as consumers when a product is cheap, low-quality, manufactured garbage from China. Correct. > In many cases we can choose to spend more and buy a handmade or custom version of the product we want. Not quite. It's increasingly hard to find a version of a product that's not low-quality garbage -…

For more, see: https://medium.com/social-capital/taylor-swift-ios-and-the-a...

Re: Drowning in AI Generated Garbage: the silent war we are fighting

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I see parallels here with industrialization and automation in manufacturing and food production. Today, it's self-evident to us as consumers when a product is cheap, low-quality, manufactured garbage from China. In many cases we can choose to spend more and buy a handmade or custom version of the product we want. In the future we might knowingly consume AI-generated cheap text for some purposes and opt for "the real…

> Another way I'm thinking about it is with GMO food. GMO food supporters point out that GMOs help us feed more people, but it still makes others uneasy. Maybe there's a similar story with AI content. It makes some content cheaper, but what are the side effects?

The analogy to GMOs seems more connected to the self-replicating nature than to any potential health side effects.

Re: Drowning in AI Generated Garbage: the silent war we are fighting

#336

Upload your fake text and images anywhere. Upload it everywhere. Upload it as yourself. Upload it on behest of your willing friends. Corrupt your face in dozens of ways, then tag each as yourself. When everything is garbage, shadow profiles will mean nothing, social credit scores will mean nothing, analytics will mean nothing. Centralization can be turned on its head - the watering hole will be revealed to be the dan…

> Create art until what can be monetized has no value.

A1.

Re: Drowning in AI Generated Garbage: the silent war we are fighting

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post #184

Sorry, I had to do it. I asked GPT3... How can we prevent drowning in garbage generated by AI? > Preventing drowning in AI-generated garbage can be a challenging task, but there are a few things that can be done to reduce the amount of garbage that is generated. One approach is to carefully design and train AI systems to generate high-quality content, rather than relying on large amounts of data to produce mediocre r…

Curious of GPT3's response to the opposite side of that question:

*How can we enable drowning in garbage generated by AI?*

Re: Drowning in AI Generated Garbage: the silent war we are fighting

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Upload your fake text and images anywhere. Upload it everywhere. Upload it as yourself. Upload it on behest of your willing friends. Corrupt your face in dozens of ways, then tag each as yourself. When everything is garbage, shadow profiles will mean nothing, social credit scores will mean nothing, analytics will mean nothing. Centralization can be turned on its head - the watering hole will be revealed to be the dan…

I'd be careful. By doing this you can use the date these AIs became readily available as a tool for bisecting between "legitimate profiles" before the year X and "potentially fake" profiles from after the year X, which can then be used to very effectively train an AI to tell the difference...

Re: Drowning in AI Generated Garbage: the silent war we are fighting

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post #339

It will probably never work to find and filter out all AI garbage. But maybe there are ways to mark content generated by humans. Something like a digital signature only a real person can acquire from some authority.

What stops a human, or many humans, from using an AI to generate content and then uploading it as if it's their own?
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