We were using Hetzner in one of the companies and we had pretty good performance per price. After acquisition the parent corporate decided to switch to AWS because "procedures". Imagine the shock when my manager saw how much it would cost per month, not to mention that corporate had their own special IT department for which we also had to pay because of "procedures". Changes needed on Hetzner took less than a day, li…
Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location
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#192This is certainly interesting. I've been using DO for something like 8 years and I really like them. I don't plan to switch but Hetzner offers a CPU optimized server with 4 CPU cores and 8 GB of memory for $17 USD / month. DigitalOcean offers the same thing for $56 USD / month. It's hard to ignore how much of a difference that is. Even the smaller'ish instances have a huge difference. Hetzner has a 2 CPU core 4 GB of…
And the difference is even bigger if you get a bare metal instance. Performance is insane if you compare it to dedicated VMs or worse cloud VMs. In one of my Java toy projects I got http responses to sub 10ms, that's includes, querying a small amount of data from postgres and responding as JSON. The tls handshakes might have been reused through, now that I think about it. The number was taken from the network tab whi…
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#193They have extremely impressive prices, but I've always been hesitant to use them for anything important because they've historically been known for very aggressively shutting down your service if their automated systems detect e.g. suspicious traffic. The most recent and egregious example would be banning users who run cryptocurrency-related nodes, even if not mining, despite only mining and similar activities being…
FWIW, I've been running a seedbox in Hetzner's Falkenstein datacenter for yrears without issue. I only use private trackers + 1 public tracker focused on asian content, but they're definitely capable of figuring out that the my traffic is mostly torrent-related and have never taken action. The only time they've ever null-routed me was when I accidentally left a DNS resolver open to the world.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would totally understand this on VPS and dedis where the crypto is mining ssd blocks (I think it’s name is Chia). But preventing me from running a normal bitcoin node on my server, which writes 400GB once and is done makes me left confused.
Providing services to the crypto community probably makes you a huge target for cyber attacks and all kinds of fraud. It's the reason I would never get into that business, so I kind of understand why a company would prefer not to allow anything crypto related on their platform.
If these are not toy projects, outages can get expensive (due to networks imposing penalties on nodes that don't fulfill promises, or trading getting messed up).
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
First thing on signup: YOU HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL IDENTITY VALIDATION, yes, even though we took your home address and credit card and phone number already. No thanks, I'll keep using Digital Ocean or someone who doesn't make me jump through hoops.
A one-off hoop that maybe helps to keep spammers off their systems ? Fine by me.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
<3 Yes it's Postgres, email should be in the profile, would love to participate.
Thank you! You've got mail ;) Postgres (and later some exciting flavors like Neon) is actually the only database I plan to support, at least for right now -- MySQL and MongoDB are not even on the roadmap really. I might make an exception for RethinkDB since I loved it so dearly.
Don't get my hopes up... I haven't used RethinkDB in ages and have fully moved to Postgres though
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
That could also be correct. But if I was under legal/contractual obligations, with Hetzner as my hosting provider, I would have their legal department confirm this. Since Hetzner found the need for appending the paragraph I referenced, they must have become aware of something.
True. Now that they are entangled with US law there might be an incentive to be as a cooperative as possible. Yet, Hetzner is still a "better" option (with regards to data protection) than any of the big US-based cloud providers.
Imho, as soon as you do business with the US or trade in US Dollars, you need to play nice with the relevant authorities.
If I understood it correctly, Hetzner is now "infected" in the same way as the three US cloud providers are. The Schrems II verdict and Cloud ACT basically concludes that no European company can exist in the US and vice versa without having to deal with the same pesky legislation.
An alternative could of course be that Hetzner created a new US based company where the EU parent Hetzner company only holds a minority ownership in the new US-based company. The EU based parent company in turn then "sells" its technology to the new US company. This way, the arrangement becomes more reminiscent of how IBM has sold its mainframe to European companies...
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#199We're a long time Hetzner dedicated server customer currently transitioning from their dedicated servers in Germany to their US Cloud product (for reduced latency) which we can highly recommend as it was the best US Cloud provider we've found that works out to be an order of magnitude less expensive than equivalent specs on Azure/AWS and also includes 20TB free bandwidth that would cost a fortune in AWS/Azure's artif…
First thing on signup: YOU HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL IDENTITY VALIDATION, yes, even though we took your home address and credit card and phone number already. No thanks, I'll keep using Digital Ocean or someone who doesn't make me jump through hoops.