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Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Still waiting for the evidence that that had anything to do with the substation attack...

The known widely open anti-lgbt jan 6th rioted who posted within hours of the outtage that she knew the source of the outage? And a picture of the drag venue with "god will not be mocked". Whatever you gotta tell yourself!

There are people who falsely claim credit for crimes that attract lots of attention. That's a known thing that happens.

Got any evidence?

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Just spitballing here - turning it into an “event” might will spur copy-cat attacks around the country. The slow-play around reporting of possible attackers and motives is trying to stop the social contagion.

These groups are already organized and coordinated. They mobbed/brigaded school board meetings in a coordinated fashion. They know who their allies are, and are now starting to act out in more violent fashion. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

>They mobbed/brigaded school board meetings in a coordinated fashion.

It's a strange way to write "parents attended school board meetings".

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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NZ had a version of this recently too: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/479858/graham-philip-rec...

> "He felt that the views of those who opposed the government's actions weren't being heard, that the mainstream media weren't taking notice, that really it needed something to be done to promote those views," Nabney told the high Court. And so he caused 1.2 million of damage to Electricity infrastructure. Tell me again why I'm the rambling conspiracy theorists for suspecting NZ is the target of disinformation trying…

Those kind of attacks occasionally happen in France. Who is behind it? Putin? China? No, quite often it happens to be, and I kid you not, a militant group of wine producers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comit%C3%A9_R%C3%A9gional_d%27...

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Shooting up and destroying key infrastructure for a town leaving many without power sounds a lot more like domestic terrorism than free speech, especially if it is in response to a small number of adults having an event you disagree with.

It was sarcasm

Poe's law means it doesn't matter.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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A VHS cassette tape thrown over transmission lines in the middle of nowhere coordinated at 3 or 4 key locations would do that too… and much easier ordinance to acquire. NMS systems can’t react and load shedding chaos is likely.

In the original Italian Job they tossed a stolen bicycle over a fence into the substation to cause a power outage. I find it hard to believe VHS tape wouldn't just vaporize instantly without disrupting anything. A steel bike frame however...

Once the VHS tape makes contact and vaporises, you get a nice "electrical" arc, which is really a nice ionised plasma arc between two high powered conductors... you get a lot of "side effects" ... such as an even bigger arc, fires, potentially explosions depending on transformer placement, etc...

Above 33kV ... you get a lot of "bang" from basically any thing that touches across the conducting wires... unwound VHS tape, mylar, string, fishing wire, ... unless it's less conductive than air ... you're in for a bad time.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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This is a dead-ringer for the Metcalf sniper attack: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/05/272015606... Edit: dead-wringer => dead-ringer

Seems like some group is making another test of their abilities. Perhaps gathering data on government response and repair times. Makes me wonder if a coordinated multi-location strike is coming sometime in the future. Scary stuff.

>Makes me wonder if a coordinated multi-location strike is coming sometime in the future.

Well...yes. Of course it is.

If for no other reason than there are a lot of angry people who would love to spread misery around and they've now been given an idea of how to do it and places like 8chan and kiwifarms provides the encouragement and planning infrastructure.

So yes, I'd be extremely surprised if this kind of destruction doesn't escalate and become much more wide spread. What's gonna stop it?

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Seems like some group is making another test of their abilities. Perhaps gathering data on government response and repair times. Makes me wonder if a coordinated multi-location strike is coming sometime in the future. Scary stuff.

Not coordinated, think open source insurgency not unlike those in Iraq or Syria.

What does "open source" mean in this context?

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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post #96

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> "He felt that the views of those who opposed the government's actions weren't being heard, that the mainstream media weren't taking notice, that really it needed something to be done to promote those views," Nabney told the high Court. And so he caused 1.2 million of damage to Electricity infrastructure. Tell me again why I'm the rambling conspiracy theorists for suspecting NZ is the target of disinformation trying…

Those kind of attacks occasionally happen in France. Who is behind it? Putin? China? No, quite often it happens to be, and I kid you not, a militant group of wine producers . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comit%C3%A9_R%C3%A9gional_d%27...

Wow, French people really just know how to do the resist/protest/rebel thing at a 115% level... Unions, Underground militant groups, regular citizens...

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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A VHS cassette tape thrown over transmission lines in the middle of nowhere coordinated at 3 or 4 key locations would do that too… and much easier ordinance to acquire. NMS systems can’t react and load shedding chaos is likely.

I think a lot about how terrorists don't act and I guess I don't understand their motives. Electric grids, fiber optic lines, train tracks, bridges, water mains, sewage treatment, all of these can be pretty easily disrupted with equipment that isn't hard to get and doesn't require extensive training. And the disruption could be extreme . I mean, I'm glad they're not doing any of this, but I'm puzzled.

Terrorism is a stupid strategy. Its track record is terrible. The folks who engage in it, fortunately, are not the most capable.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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DVEs have been talking about ways to target power substations for a while now. This is the first instance that I've seen of someone actually acting on that information. Background: https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/591331-dhs-warn... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/domestic-violent-extremists-plo...

I don’t believe a motive was ever revealed but a domestic extremist was the cause of the Nashville bombing around the holidays in the last few years, targeted communications infrastructure.
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