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Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

dmix wrote: post #92
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #86

A grenade (or IED) or two thrown in coordination into a few of those local-area transformer / power distribution stations would cause state-level chaos. Where I live, these seemingly critical infrastructure outposts, are protected by nothing more than high chicken-wire fences. Cyber Squirrel is the best and longest-lived exemplification of the sensitivity and scale of this vulnerability: https://cybersquirrel1.com/ T…

Apparently "Lead time on replacement parts" is the biggest issue today with dealing with the issue in a prompt time frame. Maybe they should stock up on at least 1x set of repair parts that would take a long timeframe to replace? Ukraine has shown how important electric substation part supply chains are.

Quoting from the movie Contact:

"Why build one, when you could build two for twice the price?"

I'd assume this isn't standard procedure, but agree that it should be, considering the increasing importance of power supply to society and in the current terror-paranoia state of the world.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by claytongulick »

gonzo41 wrote: post #72
jrm4 wrote: post #58

Kind of surprising to not see the words "domestic terrorism" here, so let me be the first? This very well could be domestic terrorism and for now it would be prudent to treat it as such.

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Citation?

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by m0x »

m4jor wrote: post #42
m0x wrote: post #26

DVEs have been talking about ways to target power substations for a while now. This is the first instance that I've seen of someone actually acting on that information. Background: https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/591331-dhs-warn... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/domestic-violent-extremists-plo...

Someone did it back in 2013, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack

Thanks for sharing, I wasn't aware of the 2013 and 2004 instances of this sort of thing happening. LE has been pushing intelligence bulletins about this sort of thing being talked about more frequently in certain circles over the last couple of years. I suppose the tactic is the same, though the intention now seems to be different than 2013 and 2004. Not to suggest that we know why this happened, though there are certainly a lot of narratives that are being backed up by OSINT.

This thread, as an example, shows OSINT being used to backup claims of possible motive - https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/159948643252742144...

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by Aeolun »

gonzo41 wrote: post #72
jrm4 wrote: post #58

Kind of surprising to not see the words "domestic terrorism" here, so let me be the first? This very well could be domestic terrorism and for now it would be prudent to treat it as such.

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I realize they’re not rational actors, but how do they think this helps their agenda? Is this county such a hotbed of Trans/Drag related activism?

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by throwawaytoilet »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #86

A grenade (or IED) or two thrown in coordination into a few of those local-area transformer / power distribution stations would cause state-level chaos. Where I live, these seemingly critical infrastructure outposts, are protected by nothing more than high chicken-wire fences. Cyber Squirrel is the best and longest-lived exemplification of the sensitivity and scale of this vulnerability: https://cybersquirrel1.com/ T…

A VHS cassette tape thrown over transmission lines in the middle of nowhere coordinated at 3 or 4 key locations would do that too… and much easier ordinance to acquire. NMS systems can’t react and load shedding chaos is likely.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by maxerickson »

ckdarby wrote: post #75
nathanaldensr wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's both. You need to do research that will show you just how long the lead times are for transformer equipment and supplies. Oh, and those lead times are still getting longer .

Yes, it is both. I do ask for you to reflect back on covid. Remember when trying to make a vaccine was 5-10 years, but when an entire country/world makes something a priority and become hyper focused and motivated they'll 10x output. The problem is when regardless of input you can't speed up the output. Think of a pregnancy, adding more pregnant women doesn't speed up the process, and consuming more inputs doesn't sp…

You appear to be talking about widespread damage. I believe others are talking about bringing up a couple of local substations.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

throwawaytoilet wrote: post #106
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #86

A grenade (or IED) or two thrown in coordination into a few of those local-area transformer / power distribution stations would cause state-level chaos. Where I live, these seemingly critical infrastructure outposts, are protected by nothing more than high chicken-wire fences. Cyber Squirrel is the best and longest-lived exemplification of the sensitivity and scale of this vulnerability: https://cybersquirrel1.com/ T…

A VHS cassette tape thrown over transmission lines in the middle of nowhere coordinated at 3 or 4 key locations would do that too… and much easier ordinance to acquire. NMS systems can’t react and load shedding chaos is likely.

Hah. My point was that it's scarily easy. I like that your point is that it's way scarily easiER.

Wouldn't Beta be slightly more effective? /s

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