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What aspect of China makes the West look like a 'backwater'? I literally cannot think of a single thing. That doesn't mean China has no positive aspects. The West is also not monolithic.
> What aspect of China makes the West look like a 'backwater'? Compare China homicide rates to USA. Or China incarceration rate to USA incarceration rate.
I’d like to see again “Made in USA” phone and ready to pay 10% more.
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You can be "civilized" and an autocracy. Certain aspects of modern China makes the West look like a backwater. Hell, even Russia has less people in prison than the US and free heath care. Also, that phrase just reeks of imperialism, racism and superiority - just a modern version of "savages who need our one true religion". OPs argument is about democracy, not level of development and culture. For clarity: I'm anti-au…
What aspect of China makes the West look like a 'backwater'? I literally cannot think of a single thing. That doesn't mean China has no positive aspects. The West is also not monolithic.
Growth, for one.
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Is South America a viable place to setup this kind of manufacturing? Mexico has a lot of car / parts manufacturing as far as I know but beyond that I don’t know.
Nokia used to have a big factory in Mexico. Brazil already makes iPhones since it’s cheaper due to their insane import tax.
iPhone made in China is no better than the cotton from Xinjiang. Earlier the reports are workers in the China iPhone factory had a protest and brutal conflict with the local police. Reasons varied from unbearable working condition, the zero-covid policy, and being deceived about the compensation. After the local police oppressed the campaign, the government assigned headcounts to local villages, demanding them to fil…
I’d like to see again “Made in USA” phone and ready to pay 10% more.
Also, Apple gets a lot of its revenue outside the US. China is actually a really big market for them. It about rivals Europe. North + South America is about 40% of the revenue for Apple. A lot of that would be from the US; but not all of it. Let's call it 30%. Made in the US just doesn't have a whole lot of appeal outside of the US and Apple has the rest of the world to worry about as well.
iPhone made in China is no better than the cotton from Xinjiang. Earlier the reports are workers in the China iPhone factory had a protest and brutal conflict with the local police. Reasons varied from unbearable working condition, the zero-covid policy, and being deceived about the compensation. After the local police oppressed the campaign, the government assigned headcounts to local villages, demanding them to fil…
Wonderful news indeed, but it’s not out of any ethical concerns, but because XI Jinping’s draconian zero-Covid policy and incessant lockdowns have made the Chinese supply-chain unreliable, something Apple like all businesses hate (remember, Tim Cook became head of Apple because of his supply-chain management chops). Still, good to see the totalitarian tyrant Xi wrecking China just as his inspiration Mao did back in t…
I fear that you're wrong. Hopefully I'm the one who's wrong, but only time will tell.
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Wonderful news indeed, but it’s not out of any ethical concerns, but because XI Jinping’s draconian zero-Covid policy and incessant lockdowns have made the Chinese supply-chain unreliable, something Apple like all businesses hate (remember, Tim Cook became head of Apple because of his supply-chain management chops). Still, good to see the totalitarian tyrant Xi wrecking China just as his inspiration Mao did back in t…
> good to see the totalitarian tyrant Xi wrecking China just as his inspiration Mao did back in the day This affects real people who just found themselves on this situation and have no power to change it. Gleefully calling the situation “good” is callous and insensitive.
I was alive before we handed all our manufacturing capacity over to China and we got along just fine. I was alive while it was happening, too, and I remember it being sold to the public as the first step toward an inevitable transition to liberal democracy in China. All those lies are now completely unmasked. China lied, the MNCs lied, Western governments lied. Never forget all the lies we were told. Never forgive either.
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India has special economic zones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_special_economic_zones...
Huh I thought I looked this up earlier, but I guess I was mistaken. Are these zones similar to China's? I see lots of tiny zones on that list that are focused on manufacturing just one product rather than huge cities that make everything.
They are not even remotely comparable to China's. There are some SEZ's that made up of just a couple of buildings. And they aren't limited to manufacturing, it's common for multinational companies to run their R&D out of them.
Source: Worked in a Bangalore SEZ for a large Chinese telecom company.
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They were understood just as well 50 years ago, the problem is, all these disadvantages are long term. Short term profits always win
Well understood? I doubt many organizations had a pandemic SOP/DRP before 2020.