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Apple to move 40-45% iPhone production to India

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Post by mikymoothrowa »

rwalle wrote: post #112
mikymoothrowa wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China does have some of the best worker protection laws. The protests we’re observing now, including the one in the iphone city, are against the government. Let’s not conflate the two.

Wow, "are against the government", that's really some typical CCP talk seen in their smear campaign. From what I can see people just want a bit of freedom and get their promised compensation. I doubt any of the workers has interest in overthrowing the government.

I'm not sure where you're from but for a good majority of the world, protesting against the government and wanting to overthrow the government are two very different things. I am talking about the former.

The sorry state the west has devolved into in the last 2 years.

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Post by 90d »

throwawaaay129 wrote: post #50
fyresala wrote: post #26

iPhone made in China is no better than the cotton from Xinjiang. Earlier the reports are workers in the China iPhone factory had a protest and brutal conflict with the local police. Reasons varied from unbearable working condition, the zero-covid policy, and being deceived about the compensation. After the local police oppressed the campaign, the government assigned headcounts to local villages, demanding them to fil…

I don't know where people get the idea people are semi-enslaved in factories.. Having lived in China, in my second hand experience Chinese worker protection laws are quite strict. Somewhere between US and Europe. It's not really easy to fire people and people regularly sue their employers and win. The legal system is generally very heavily biased towards the little guy I just feel really bad for these people. They pr…

I think it was the suicide nets?

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Post by guessbest »

mikymoothrowa wrote: post #147
silisili wrote: post #45

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It's good for China because they're just going to keep making them anyways and flood the market with their version.

Their version is Huawei. Huawei phones are not allowed to be sold in _most of the world_

Looks like the Chinese android phone that has the most traction are BBK models, not Huawei.

> But we must keep in mind BBK has multiple players in the game. Two of their brands make it to the top list in market share data. Oppo and Vivo each hold 10%, equating to a total of 20%.

https://www.androidauthority.com/bbk-phone-manufacturer-8088...

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Post by _ZeD_ »

radicalbyte wrote: post #78
cpursley wrote: post #49

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I basically agree with you on all points. But can we please drop this "civilized world" term? I suggest "democratic world".

Yeah considering that China for about 2000 years was the leading civilisation I'm not sure why people use that term.

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ls15 wrote: post #54
fyresala wrote: post #26

iPhone made in China is no better than the cotton from Xinjiang. Earlier the reports are workers in the China iPhone factory had a protest and brutal conflict with the local police. Reasons varied from unbearable working condition, the zero-covid policy, and being deceived about the compensation. After the local police oppressed the campaign, the government assigned headcounts to local villages, demanding them to fil…

> And I will not be surprised Apple will cease the plan in India as soon as China steps back from the zero-covid policy, as if all the blood has not been spilled. I doubt it. The disadvantages of being dependant on a single source are well-understood in 2022.

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Post by akmittal »

fyresala wrote: post #26

iPhone made in China is no better than the cotton from Xinjiang. Earlier the reports are workers in the China iPhone factory had a protest and brutal conflict with the local police. Reasons varied from unbearable working condition, the zero-covid policy, and being deceived about the compensation. After the local police oppressed the campaign, the government assigned headcounts to local villages, demanding them to fil…

> I will not be surprised Apple will cease the plan in India as soon as China steps back from the zero-covid policy,

Companies are not stupid to invest billions just to get manufacturing for few months. If someone is making assembly plans they will be willing to use it for atleast 4-5 years

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Post by JZM8yKnRvGv »

lpcvoid wrote: post #131
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #106

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> What aspect of China makes the West look like a 'backwater'? Compare China homicide rates to USA. Or China incarceration rate to USA incarceration rate.

I have not done any research on this and am genuinely interested - why can I trust the numbers the CCP releases on incarceration rate?

According to stats there are 1.3 million people incarcerated in China.

If incarceration rates in China were similar to those in USA it should be 10.3 million people. It would be pretty hard to hide them.

USA are by far the number one country in the World for jail population and for incarceration rates, worse even than Putin's Russia.

They would love to share the top step of the podium with someone else if they could prove it.

The most logical explanation is that they can't, because the numbers are probably not true, but not too far from the truth.

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Post by abrouwers »

usrnm wrote: post #70
ls15 wrote: post #54

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> And I will not be surprised Apple will cease the plan in India as soon as China steps back from the zero-covid policy, as if all the blood has not been spilled. I doubt it. The disadvantages of being dependant on a single source are well-understood in 2022.

They were understood just as well 50 years ago, the problem is, all these disadvantages are long term. Short term profits always win

I disagree, for long term sourcing. It takes awhile to get relationships, supply chain, etc. established.

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Post by Markoff »

slaw wrote: post #119
Markoff wrote: post #94

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So exist communist China for communist Vietnam, right, that's really an improvement. Only reason companies are moving from China is because of too high cost already while Vietnam, Indonesia or India are way poorer. Plus if you would read the article you would notice Vietnam is just too small with not enough labor to replace China.

Vietnam with 98 million population is too small? Vietnam is completely different than Indonesia and India. It is like smaller China before Xi took power.

Read the article before commenting.
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