Apple to move 40-45% iPhone production to India

Post by enkid » Sun, Dec 04, 2022, 1:04 PM UTC

powerapple wrote: post #124

fyresala wrote: post #26

iPhone made in China is no better than the cotton from Xinjiang. Earlier the reports are workers in the China iPhone factory had a protest and brutal conflict with the local police. Reasons varied from unbearable working condition, the zero-covid policy, and being deceived about the compensation. After the local police oppressed the campaign, the government assigned headcounts to local villages, demanding them to fil…

Wrong. The protest is about compensation, the workers were promised to have 10k once they get pass the probation period, 3 months. They were let go before the 3 month probation finished, and they demand the payment. You don't just go around developing world and criticize people not eating organic food or anything. It is not right. I wish Chinese workers get paid the same amount as their western counterparts, the fact…

Post by enkid » Sun, Dec 04, 2022, 1:07 PM UTC

iglio wrote: post #103

mschuster91 wrote: post #57

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> Apple industrial partners are all asians. Samsung and the like don't do any better regarding ethics. You can rightfully complain about labor practices in other Asian countries, but forced labor from concentration camps is a uniquely Chinese atrocity.

Just for completeness, the US has its own flavor of issues here in its prison system. Just 23¢ to $1.15 is the typical hourly pay [1], and work is not always voluntary and up to the same employee protection/safety standards as true employment [2]. Labour sourced from the incarcerated creates problematic incentives in law enforcement. [1] https://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/unicor_about.js... [2] https://www.…

Post by sgu999 » Sun, Dec 04, 2022, 1:21 PM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #57

sgu999 wrote: post #47

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> Apple and many westerners never understand the risk and the ethics implication of doing business in China. Apple industrial partners are all asians. Samsung and the like don't do any better regarding ethics. Not sure why the divide with the "ignorant west" is necessary in your argument. Of course people at Apple understand the risk, and it is taken into account to generate as much profit as possible.

> Apple industrial partners are all asians. Samsung and the like don't do any better regarding ethics. You can rightfully complain about labor practices in other Asian countries, but forced labor from concentration camps is a uniquely Chinese atrocity.

Post by mikymoothrowa » Sun, Dec 04, 2022, 1:40 PM UTC

silisili wrote: post #45

tw1984 wrote: post #42

Zero-covid or not, this is inevitable. iphones were used to be built in Shenzhen, it is now no longer economically viable to do so anymore as labor costs in Shenzhen is much higher, so they moved the factory to Zhenzhou. to chase more profit, they will always consider cheaper alternatives. It is actually good for the Chinese economy as such cheap labor jobs are not going to sustain further growth required to compete…

It's good for China because they're just going to keep making them anyways and flood the market with their version.

Post by oblak » Sun, Dec 04, 2022, 1:43 PM UTC

rolisz wrote: post #91

amelius wrote: post #63

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People never see the harm done so they are basically ignorant. Most people wouldn't eat meat if they had to kill an animal either.

Plenty of people live on farms and grow animals, kill them and then eat them. I haven't killed one myself, but I have been at pig butchering "parties" at my grandparents or uncles and saw how the sausage is made. Still tastes yummy.