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South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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nemothekid wrote: post #146
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #134

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It's not that it's owned by Chinese, it's that it is based in China with demonstrated links to the Chinese communist government. It's not sinophobic to distrust the Chinese government. Are the Chinese protestors sinophobes?

If you want TikTok banned in the US because they don't have proper data hygiene and you believe that data could be used by the CCP in the future that is fair. If you want TikTok banned in the US because you believe that they promote dumb content as part of some strategic Chinese plot and you conveniently ignore Meta and Google, I'm going to assume that your reasoning comes from irrational fear of the Chinese. It does…

I agree with both of your points. This reminds me while visiting the holocaust museum. The guide explained similar conspiracy popular believe that Jews have a great secret plan to poison European society. I assumed this kind of thinking is commons in Xenophobic situations either subconsciously or un subconsciously.

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scarface74 wrote: post #188
nradov wrote: post #113

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It's not so much people in the US who believe that top science and engineering roles should be filled by immigrants, but rather employers who want cheap labor and can control the immigration laws indirectly via lobbying and campaign contributions. US work visa laws give preference to foreign students who earn advanced degrees in US universities. Those students are thus more willing to tolerate low wages and poor trea…

Which BigTech employers are getting “cheap labor”? Cry me a river about a returning intern with no experience “only” being able to make $160K right out of college and a mid level developer “only” making in the mid $200 in a couple of years. Yes I work in BigTech and I’m one of only a very few native English speakers on my team and probably in my wider department. I never look at my coworkers and think if it weren’t f…

" I never look at my coworkers and think if it weren’t for them I would be making even more than 3x to 4x the median income in the US."

You should think that, though: their presence is helping reduce wages, including yours. The fact that labor in tech is relatively well paid compared to other fields is entirely irrelevant.

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LordDragonfang wrote: post #96
nonethewiser wrote: post #71

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Given that the source is corroborated, looks like the Tucker Carlson source can be trusted. Your opinion on reputation is just that.

Liars are capable of telling the truth, but that doesn't mean you should assume what they say is true without corroboration. https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

The Tucker Carlson peice is accurate. A reasonable person would incorporate that in their opinion of the source.

Politifact "fact check", or really anything that calls itself s fact check, isn't a reliable proxy for forming opinion from primary sources.

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chihuahua wrote: post #180
nonethewiser wrote: post #68

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Cable TV is hardly relevant at this point. Its about streaming services, social media, and other internet media.

This may be a cliche, but I seriously don't understand why anyone still watches cable TV - it's been unbearable for many years and it's expensive. I sort of understand that some people enjoy sports broadcasts that are only available on cable, but the rest is just unbearable and incomprehensible to me.

Sports and local news I guess

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sidlls wrote: post #212
scarface74 wrote: post #188

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Which BigTech employers are getting “cheap labor”? Cry me a river about a returning intern with no experience “only” being able to make $160K right out of college and a mid level developer “only” making in the mid $200 in a couple of years. Yes I work in BigTech and I’m one of only a very few native English speakers on my team and probably in my wider department. I never look at my coworkers and think if it weren’t f…

" I never look at my coworkers and think if it weren’t for them I would be making even more than 3x to 4x the median income in the US." You should think that, though: their presence is helping reduce wages, including yours. The fact that labor in tech is relatively well paid compared to other fields is entirely irrelevant.

Yes because I’m such a selfish human being I’m going to bemoan the fact that my coworkers who are also able to have a good life that ability because even with my unvested RSUs that are at half their all time highs, I’m still going to make over three times the national median household income.

For context: I’m not bragging, I’m not officially a software engineer by title and I only fell into BigTech three years ago at 45 by doing a slight pivot from software engineering. I’m still paid less than an equivalent mid level software dev at my own company.

Not that I’m complaining I work remotely from - all over the US.

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Post by karmanyaahm »

dools wrote: post #138
LAC-Tech wrote: post #21

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As opposed to what other part of the world? Interest in drier, more educational content is less for every human society I know of.

My youngest daughter’s favourite TV show is operation ouch which is aired on the ABC and produced by the BBC. Having a publicly funded TV network goes a long way to producing good content.

PBS Digital Studios [1] also funds several high-quality YouTube-style creators. Some of my favorites are "It's Okay to Be Smart" and "PBS Spacetime". Crash Course, a staple of high-school review material has also partnered with PBS.

[1] https://www.pbs.org/franchise/digital-studios/

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scarface74 wrote: post #215
sidlls wrote: post #212

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" I never look at my coworkers and think if it weren’t for them I would be making even more than 3x to 4x the median income in the US." You should think that, though: their presence is helping reduce wages, including yours. The fact that labor in tech is relatively well paid compared to other fields is entirely irrelevant.

Yes because I’m such a selfish human being I’m going to bemoan the fact that my coworkers who are also able to have a good life that ability because even with my unvested RSUs that are at half their all time highs, I’m still going to make over three times the national median household income. For context: I’m not bragging, I’m not officially a software engineer by title and I only fell into BigTech three years ago at…

I look at it differently: tech companies get away with paying our immigrant peers less because they can, and we should work toward addressing that so that all of us benefit.

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Post by scarface74 »

sidlls wrote: post #217
scarface74 wrote: post #215

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Yes because I’m such a selfish human being I’m going to bemoan the fact that my coworkers who are also able to have a good life that ability because even with my unvested RSUs that are at half their all time highs, I’m still going to make over three times the national median household income. For context: I’m not bragging, I’m not officially a software engineer by title and I only fell into BigTech three years ago at…

I look at it differently: tech companies get away with paying our immigrant peers less because they can, and we should work toward addressing that so that all of us benefit.

From looking at my companies internal “anonymous” #pay-equity Slack channel. I don’t see that as being the case.

The Slack channel is anonymous via a Slack workflow that posts on your behalf. As part of the workflow, it allows you to self identify your ethnicity and location.

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Post by b345 »

philliphaydon wrote: post #203
nemothekid wrote: post #120

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If you are concerned about the content that American's consume, there is no reason to single out TikTok. Instagram has been shoving the same garbage into the feeds of teenagers for nearly a decade and Reels is nearly exact clone of TikTok. There is little "educational" content on Instagram Reels. The solution would be regulate all the social media companies, like how China does. If the problem is solely TikTok, then…

I live in Taiwan. I sometimes look at Facebook reels and Instagram. I never come across anti China or anti US content. I tried tiktok for a day and was bombarded with anti US content. Videos blaming the US for covid. Videos saying that covid started in the US, created by the US, etc. Videos that the US is using Taiwan to start a war with China. I deleted tiktok and have it blocked. You can defend China all you want.…

Anecdotal evidence. Maybe it's what you were recommended based on your watch history or other data points. YouTube recommends me anti-China content all the time.
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