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South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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The bigger deal (bigger than the tracking that people usually focus on) might be how the algorithm is specifically tuned to reward dumb content in the US, compared to rewarding STEM and other educational content in China. One minute video that explains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hus9fWz0RRk Further reading: https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...

The US doesn't reward factual programming, that's why the History Channel turned into the Ancient Aliens Channel.

This made me laugh, it’s so true! Growing up I absolutely loved the History Channel, once they became the ancient aliens and Pawn Stars channel, I was so sad.

Similar thing happened to G4 tech TV.

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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This isn't a choice being made by TikTok, this is due to regulations/laws in China. If the US passed laws requiring TikTok to do the same in the US, they would obviously comply.

>This isn't a choice being made by TikTok, this is...China Perhaps a distinction without a difference

I actually think it's a good point. There's no way in the US we'd tolerate the government regulating the content on the platform.

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This isn't a choice being made by TikTok, this is due to regulations/laws in China. If the US passed laws requiring TikTok to do the same in the US, they would obviously comply.

No, it is almost certainly deliberate. In China, all companies with more than 50 employees are legally obligated to have dedicated Chinese Communist Party representatives overseeing, according to Harvard Business Publishing ( https://hbsp.harvard.edu/product/R1403J-HCB-ENG ). Social media companies? They probably have tons of mandatory representatives guiding the system. ByteDance also had a "nominal" 1% ownership ta…

I’m not sure it’s so different from the club being a political party or the club being from the Ivy League for top end business and political roles.

I think a narrow set of outlooks is bad for the general population.

If you think TikTok deliberately prioritizes dumbed down content then why does Facebook or Fox news also do it?

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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The bigger deal (bigger than the tracking that people usually focus on) might be how the algorithm is specifically tuned to reward dumb content in the US, compared to rewarding STEM and other educational content in China. One minute video that explains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hus9fWz0RRk Further reading: https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...

The primary source of your "further reading" article is Tucker Carlson. Not saying the claim is incorrect, but are there any trustworthy sources supporting it?

Yes. https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-passes-sweeping-re...

If you want to verify it yourself, go to China, open Douyin. Plus, the story makes internal sense - for example, pornography and the kind of soft-core porn, heavily revealing clothing, and so forth that appears on TikTok is actually illegal in China. Post it, you'd get it censored and removed.

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a choice being made by TikTok, this is due to regulations/laws in China. If the US passed laws requiring TikTok to do the same in the US, they would obviously comply.

>This isn't a choice being made by TikTok, this is...China Perhaps a distinction without a difference

It is a difference, if TikTok would activly try to make the west dumber and china smarter vs. just different rules of those states.

The first could be viewed as a attack vs. the latter is a mere choice of the states involved.

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As opposed to what other part of the world? Interest in drier, more educational content is less for every human society I know of.

I found that European TV is a lot drier and more educational than US TV, but I don't know if that's because of interest, regulation, a smaller market (in each language), or ?

Cable TV is hardly relevant at this point. Its about streaming services, social media, and other internet media.

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The bigger deal (bigger than the tracking that people usually focus on) might be how the algorithm is specifically tuned to reward dumb content in the US, compared to rewarding STEM and other educational content in China. One minute video that explains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hus9fWz0RRk Further reading: https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...

Opindia citing Tucker Carlson, Stephen Crowder, and using "alleged" videos of non gender normative people as examples of bad content is pretty revolting.

I'll also say that Instagram is just as much trash as TikTok, but it's our trash instead of china's.

Infinite-scroll short form trash content is this generation's trash TV, yet more addictive.

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No, it is almost certainly deliberate. In China, all companies with more than 50 employees are legally obligated to have dedicated Chinese Communist Party representatives overseeing, according to Harvard Business Publishing ( https://hbsp.harvard.edu/product/R1403J-HCB-ENG ). Social media companies? They probably have tons of mandatory representatives guiding the system. ByteDance also had a "nominal" 1% ownership ta…

I’m not sure it’s so different from the club being a political party or the club being from the Ivy League for top end business and political roles. I think a narrow set of outlooks is bad for the general population. If you think TikTok deliberately prioritizes dumbed down content then why does Facebook or Fox news also do it?

Because sex sells. Need I say more?

I'm dead serious. Go on Facebook, Twitter, even Fox News, how many images can you find without revealing clothing, suggestive poses, suggestive dances, etc.? Not far.

For them, it's a financial motive. For TikTok, because it is so bottom of the barrel, I think it has both financial and strategic motive.

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