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Gut epithelial barrier damage caused by dishwasher detergents and rinse aids

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Re: Gut epithelial barrier damage caused by dishwasher detergents and rinse aids

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Post by mschuster91 »

runnerup wrote: post #235
germinalphrase wrote: post #214

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Do you use the carbon scrubbers in-line with your HVAC or did you rig of some kind of stand alone system?

Stand-alone. I got two cylindrical carbon filters and one fan. I slide the three components together and then stand them up vertically like a floor standing speaker. Currently living in an apartment. It scrubs the air really quite fast. Helps a lot with kitchen smoke, pet smells, cleaning chemical vapors, and new furniture/plastic VOCs. I also live in the middle of a bunch of chemical plants so it’s invaluable for th…

> I recognize this sounds insane.

The insane thing is not your cat - cats are damn smart if they want to. The insane thing is that leak events happen multiple times a week and nothing seems to happen, or that residential zoning is right next to heavy industry in the first place. WTF?

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Post by reverius42 »

balls187 wrote: post #239
sgerenser wrote: post #228

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Surely you mean if you inhale it?

If you inhale yes, but drinking it can also lead to certain death.

Not drinking it can also lead to certain death.

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Post by A_non_e-moose »

hedora wrote: post #208
balls187 wrote: post #185

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Good old di-hydrogen monoxide. A horribly toxic chemical.

It is the #1 cause of death in the US for ages 1-4, and #2 from 5-14. Also, if you drink it, you will certainly die. https://www.cdc.gov/drowning/facts/index.html

Nazis and pedophiles were also avid consumers of that chemical.

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Post by last_responder »

someweirdperson wrote: post #282
tpxl wrote: post #274

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> recommend Miele vacuums which are fully sealed with proper gaskets for maximum suction and minimum allergen leaking/spreading...Dyson strongly not recommended Have you tried a water vaccuum? :)

Is that a vacuum cleaner that can suck water, or are there vacuums that use water to clean the exhaust like scrubbers on ships do?

Probably works like a water pipe aka bong

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Post by xfitm3 »

RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm wrote: post #22

Rinse aid is completely unneeded if you properly maintain and use your dishwasher. I never use any, and my dishes are completely spotless. 30 years old dishwasher, super hard water. Specifically, you should: - always fill the salt of the dishwasher's water softener once it's empty. It cannot soften the water if it doesn't get cleaned by the salt. If the water is not softened you will get spots. EDIT: Apparently US fo…

> 30 years old dishwasher, super hard water.

This is the real key, modern dishwashers have so many limitations in an attempt to reduce water and power usage they do an awful job. I wish there was more information on how to disable these features.

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Post by zorgmonkey »

stephen_g wrote: post #216
m463 wrote: post #116

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I wonder about sulfates, specifically SLS (sodium lauryl sulfate - which has many whack-a-mole names). SLS is a surficant, and although not named in this study, it has been shown in other studies to interfere with mucous membranes (canker sores, etc) I would wonder if that happens in the gut too. It is in many things. toothpaste, shampoo, dishwasher and laundry detergents, and lots more Since people are trying to avo…

The article references another article about SLS in toothpaste (unfortunately not accessible without paying) - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00016357.2019.1... Just seeing that makes me want to switch toothpaste. There looks to be an 'Oral B Toothpaste Pure' that doesn't have SLS or colourants, might give that a go.

Do you happen to know of somewhere in the US that sells that 'Oral B Toothpaste Pure'? Everywhere I can find that sells seems to be in Europe or Australia which I assume would mean paying a stupid amount in shipping fees.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

someweirdperson wrote: post #282
tpxl wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> recommend Miele vacuums which are fully sealed with proper gaskets for maximum suction and minimum allergen leaking/spreading...Dyson strongly not recommended Have you tried a water vaccuum? :)

Is that a vacuum cleaner that can suck water, or are there vacuums that use water to clean the exhaust like scrubbers on ships do?

To sibling comment: bongs cool down smoke, not filter it

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Post by Mvandenbergh »

esskay wrote: post #166
Macha wrote: post #132

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Seems to be not quite EU/US. At least in Ireland we don't have salt compartments either. Maybe an anglosphere/not division?

Really odd that it differs so close to neighbouring countries. Here (UK) I've never seen a Dishwasher without a salt hole, and there's often several well know brands of salt in the supermarket (no idea why, its all the same stuff). I wonder if its based on average water hardness in the area. I'm in the north of England and our supply comes out of Buxton Springs (yep the same as Buxton bottled water) and is extremly s…

Ireland has very hard water for the most part so I don't think that'd be the reason.
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