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Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Thats absolutely not true.

You're right, it's not true. It's more like a decade's salary. Full IVF generally ranges from $10-15k USD. Median worldwide income is about $900 USD.

It costs that much only in the USA, not everywhere.

In many parts of the world, it's either way less expensive, or even covered by health insurance (at least a few tries).

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I had a test recently and I have 0% "normal" sperms, when 4%-14% is the normal range. Pretty radical. The doctor said to take vitamins, to get testosterone to normal level, and to excercise. In other words not much to do

> to get testosterone to normal level > In other words not much to do Isn't this contradicting? What were your test/free-test levels?

Well, there's not much to do in a sense of a one weird trick. No easy way out here. Mine was 290/190 at the age of 33. Not zero, but a lot of people are alarmed way before reaching that low

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I'm a Catholic and fairly traditionally minded and am surprised by what you're saying since at my church, couples in this age range are on their fourth or fifth kid by the time they're 30. Even amongst the newest married couples, most are expecting within the first year. I understand we have different beliefs and such but since we're all in the same environment, how do we explain the simultaneous existence of the see…

> I understand we have different beliefs and such but since we're all in the same environment, Interesting you mention that the group I am referring to and myself are all members of religion generally associated with large families as well. I should also clarify all of them have at least 2 kids at this point. Which is another interesting data point of many of them didn't have difficulty with their first couple of kid…

Okay, well you didn't mention this. This is certainly more interesting. I've heard of one couple that I know who are having issues, but they are now much older than they were. I'll have to wait and see. I don't really have any anecdata to confirm or dispute here.

I wish them the best of luck.

I will say, the first couple of kids make it harder to conceive the rest. Logistically speaking... And also , men's and women's stress levels with young children cannot be good for fertility

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Hopefully they will never discover that this is due to excessive wanking.

That solves the Fermi Paradox.

I mean, VR porn is already pretty nuts, I can imagine that a few generations of technology down the line the desire to explore the universe can be fully supplanted

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Hopefully they will never discover that this is due to excessive wanking.

That solves the Fermi Paradox.

The answer to the great filter being the development of supernormal stimuli doesn't seem too farfetched.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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It must be environmental.

it can't really be genetic

From TFA: "But the transmission of these exposures doesn’t stop there—the epigenetic effects of these exposures may be transmitted from one generation to the next, not just from the mother but possibly from the father too. It may be due to factors in the father’s sperm that disrupt the reproductive development of male fetuses in the womb, Levine notes."

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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To be fair I think it is kinda racist to categorize sperm as either "Western" sperm vs "other" sperm. They couldn't do the bare fucking minimum and at least separate by continent or wealth? Health?

Maybe it's not the bare minimum? Maybe they had limited funding, largely access only to "Western sperm" (which actually is a reasonable category I would argue because we share a lifestyle to a greater or lesser degree), maybe they had sparse data that covered simply "not the West".

If they had access largely only to "western" sperm then they could separate it out by country, or income, or something more sane. It's not like the rest of the world shares a lifestyle!
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