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Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by danaris »

sergiotapia wrote: post #163
fishcrackers wrote: post #159

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I like being able to trust my device and my kids device, if you wan't something to hack on get a pinephone or something the reality is that billions of people need to trust their phones with their most personal information, fininaces and lives and apple's policies while sometimes annoying do a lot to build that trust they aren't a big secret and if you don't like it you're free to not buy their products

How does the option of openness interrupt your curated lifecycle?

Not having the option forces companies like Facebook to play by some simple rules.

Having the option would mean that many apps that are currently available through the App Store, and therefore broadly trustworthy, would suddenly become side-load-only and follow basically no rules at all.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by scarface74 »

piva00 wrote: post #745
scarface74 wrote: post #721

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> can't think of a proper analogy to the market power that Apple holds by having the whole platform coupled with devices that people don't have that many other choices There are three console makers as opposed to two major phone manufacturers. How is that different?

You can release your games for PCs and have enough market share to be sustainable. You can't just release your app on the web and have the exact same experience as a native application, there's no alternative with enough market share for mobile platforms. Do you really not see a difference between these worlds or are you being purposefully obtuse and ignoring reality to try to push your point? It's again an example f…

The PC game market is a nothingburger compared to console.

So the same people who aren’t willing to walk away from ios with 50% market share are going to suggest walking away from all consoles which combined have a much larger than 50% market share in the games market?

People have been complaining for years that Apple is holding the PWA market back. Where are all of the companies that are releasing iOS + web only and telling Android users to use the web app?

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by hparadiz »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #597
Goz3rr wrote: post #549

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Damaging the hardware is a bit of an overstatement. What people are calling fuses isn't really a fuse in the traditional sense. An eFuse usually is just write once memory. All the limiting features are implemented in software which reads out the state of this memory.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but once the eFuse is triggered (which, if it's write-only memory, still involves a physical change that could be interpreted as damage), it's effectively unfixable without replacing the whole motherboard, reflashing it with your original serial number, IMEI, etc. At least that's what I recall from reading about it - Samsung service can "reset" the Knox lock-out, but they do it by replacing t…

This entire comment is irrelevant. The Knox fuse only matters if you're flashing the stock rom back. Only the stock rom actually cares about Knox. The custom roms all ignore the value from Knox or simply spoof it. In other words it's just punishing you for daring to flash a custom ROM.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

tedunangst wrote: post #370
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #347

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The point is that at even the slightest hint that Apple might compromise Twitter's iPhone App or advertising, Musk has to visit and smooth things over. Have you heard that actions speak louder than words? If Apple didn't have too much power why would this occur?

Because Elon is a nut and likes stirring up drama? For real, who was the first person to tell Elon that twitter was going to be banned? Was it Tim Cook? Or was it catturd?

Attack ideas, not people. What does Elon's actions have to do with Apple's anti-competitive behavior?

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Post by hparadiz »

visarga wrote: post #470
hparadiz wrote: post #399

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With Galaxy phones they are extremely hostile to unsigned flashes to the device. You essentially need to exploit a zero day in the stock rom to get temporary root and then while you have temporary root you flash a new recovery. And then you gotta make sure it doesn't flash the stock recovery back in the next boot by making sure your next reboot goes into the recovery. And then you can flash your custom ROM. I skipped…

Having to jump through so many hoops is why I never bothered to root my phones. It sounds like 90% chance to brick it.

It's not possible to hard brick. Only soft brick. You can always recover back to stock if you mess up using the official flasher with the stock rom.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by hparadiz »

cute_boi wrote: post #422
Benjamin_Dobell wrote: post #354

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Flashing an unsigned (or potentially differently signed) bootloader burns fuses. Sure. However, other manufacturers don't just burn fuses, you specifically need to apply for permission to flash your bootloader e.g. https://www.oneplus.com/support/answer/detail/op588 Samsung at least don't require personal details for you to take control of your device. Sure, you lose access to some multimedia, but don't blame Samsung…

well, Miami and one plus requires you to provide phone number etc., so that seller and other people don't sell you malicious second hand phone or tampered phone. However, there are no fuses, so your phone will still be on warranty if you unroot it.

I'll stick to Sony where I don't have to tell them anything. OnePlus can fuck off.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by HDThoreaun »

AlexandrB wrote: post #405
HDThoreaun wrote: post #286

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No one is forcing you to use a third party App Store. Any app with enough popularity on a third party store will be cloned on the first party one.

I don't think anyone is going to be cloning Netflix or Fortnite. Not just because it's hard, but also because they'd get sued out of existence.

I don't think netflix or fortnite would force you to use a third party app. Too much negative press and loss of customers.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by 6yyyyyy »

DefineOutside wrote: post #228
endisneigh wrote: post #86

Stop buying Apple if you don't like it. Seriously. At the end of the day all of these companies would do the exact same thing as Apple if they were in Apple's position. The real solution to this is improved functionality of web apps and complete migration to those, then you can be free of the duopoly. Other than using phone specific features, why can't all apps run on your desktop, laptop or elsewhere? I'll never get…

> Stop buying Apple if you don't like it. I personally don't like it and will not stop buying apple phones. The CPU's on an iPhone are far ahead of Android. I could buy either the Pixel 4 or the iPhone 11 for the same $450 price a month after launch from my carrier. single-thread geekbench: iPhone 11 (September 2019): 1311 Pixel 4 (October 2019): 662 Pixel 7 (October 2022): 1058 The geekbench for the Pixel 7 is 1051…

What are you doing on a phone where CPU speed matters? Mine scores 364 and I've never felt like performance was a problem.

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Post by hacym »

tshaddox wrote: post #193
cafed00d wrote: post #182

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> I want the option to control my devices. Why is that you'd demand this of _Apple_? Doesn't Linux and the plethora of devices it supports give you this already? I ask as a willful customer who prefers the complete control Apple provides. I never have to think about "porn" or "bitcoin scam" or "upsells from parent's bank" or any other crap from being easily accessible on my kids' or elderly parent's devices. Even Ste…

> Now, I admit, this means I'm under the mercy of what _Apple_ thinks is "right" or "wrong". Only to the extent that you're "locked in" to the Apple ecosystem. I'm entirely in the Apple ecosystem as well (at least for smartphone/tablet/PC hardware, and lesser so for online services) but it wouldn't be a threat to my identity to switch if I was sufficiently upset of Apple's choices (and there were viable alternatives)…

Google, by virtue of owning my email for nearly 15 years, has me much more locked in and I don’t own a single Android or Google device.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by danaris »

RHSeeger wrote: post #658
bayindirh wrote: post #427

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I understand where you are coming from, and support you on that. On the other hand, I'm pretty happy with the default state of an iPhone. It just manages itself, and all that hard problems (backups, updates, ease of use, experience homogenity, etc.) are solved. I manage more than enough servers at work, and I don't want to manage another server in my pocket, do nitty-gritty settings, allow selected apps background ac…

> It just manages itself, and all that hard problems (backups, updates, ease of use, experience homogenity, etc.) are solved. My wife switched away from an iPhone an an Android device less than a year ago exactly because this _wasn't_ the case. - Restore from backup failed... pretty much impossible to solve as far as we could tell - Tell iTunes what songs you want loaded onto your phone and sync. Then leave the house…

You list several fairly serious failures that are absolutely not typical.

I have had to restore my iDevices from backups several times. It has worked flawlessly every time.

I have been syncing my music library from iTunes to my iDevices since well before the iPhone existed. The only times I have ever had a problem with songs not being on the iPhone are when a) I wasn't actually syncing my whole library, but a subset, and I had forgotten which songs I hadn't synced, or b) the songs failed to sync, and iTunes/Finder gave me a big dialog box saying so, with a message explaining why for each individual song that didn't sync. This is true for songs I bought through the iTunes Store as well as those from other sources.

Does this mean I expect these things to work perfectly for everyone, every time? No, of course not. I've had my share of problems with all my Apple devices.

But it does mean that either because of user error or unusually bad products (ie, you got a lemon), your experience is not typical.

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