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Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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I want the option to control my devices. I don’t understand the arguments that claim Apple needs to rule the device with an iron fist. What problems does it cause to make the locked down experience the default with the option for me to disable that and take control of the device after I buy it? I want to own my stuff. I want to repair it and I want complete control over it. I think that in 10 years we’ll all have car…

I like being able to trust my device and my kids device, if you wan't something to hack on get a pinephone or something the reality is that billions of people need to trust their phones with their most personal information, fininaces and lives and apple's policies while sometimes annoying do a lot to build that trust they aren't a big secret and if you don't like it you're free to not buy their products

You can have all your devices locked.

I want the option to unlock my device and use it as I see fit.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

#432

I want the option to control my devices. I don’t understand the arguments that claim Apple needs to rule the device with an iron fist. What problems does it cause to make the locked down experience the default with the option for me to disable that and take control of the device after I buy it? I want to own my stuff. I want to repair it and I want complete control over it. I think that in 10 years we’ll all have car…

I want to own nowthihg. And while that obviously doesn’t preclude anyone else owning something, I’m pretty sure the Apple ecosystem for non-owner users could shrink in case there is an option to leave it.

That said, I’m completely with the service/content companies when it comes to subscriptions for content.

And I won’t buy a car needing a “subscription” to use physical features.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

#433

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People used to build websites for IE. Now people build websites for chrome. Firefox is a better browser but people are stuck with chrome cos everything works in chrome. Google controls chromium. Its absolutely history repeating when Google adds is own standards. People whine about iOS Safari but the reality is it works really well and most of the complaints are “it works in chrome but not safari and I don’t want to s…

Two different points in IE’s history. Chrome is like IE in the IE5 era when it was totally dominant and the best browser around. Safari is like IE in the IE7-8 era when it was the worst browser and actively holding back everything else.

That's a load of crap. I use safari for all my browsing with the one exception of using Firefox for read.amazon.com. It's perfectly fine. I'm never working on my computer an thinking, "damnit safari, why can't you just be like chrome/firefox." That never happens. I vastly prefer safari to chrome or Firefox.

At work I'll use chrome because some of our web apps only support chrome for whatever reason. But they're garbage IBM puts out, not something you'd use by choice.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

#434

You're free to buy an Android device if Apple devices don't suit your needs. And if you don't want to pay the fee required to sell in this specific appstore, make it a website. After all, you don't get to sell your Etsy products in the shelves of local supermarkets for free either.

Not every app works as a website and even when they do, they aren’t as good as a native app. They use more CPU, memory, and network bandwidth.

The point stands that no one forced that developer or team to build a product on a platform that requires a 30% fee.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

#435

“Over and over again @Apple gives itself every advantage while at the same time stifling innovation and hurting consumers.” That’s funny Ek. Seems like Spotify gives itself every advantage while at the same time stifling innovation and hurting musicians.

How do they hurt musicians? Google says they pay at least a third of a cent per stream. How much should they pay?

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

#436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there not an alternative to buying an iPhone? 80% of the phone market is non iOS.

And what is that 80% comprised of? It's not much of an alternative when both parties are squeezing 30% out of those of us who do mobile development.

It's not Apple's problem the competition is mediocre, you advocating for the tearing up of Apple means we are left with only mediocre options, is that what you want?

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

#437

I want the option to control my devices. I don’t understand the arguments that claim Apple needs to rule the device with an iron fist. What problems does it cause to make the locked down experience the default with the option for me to disable that and take control of the device after I buy it? I want to own my stuff. I want to repair it and I want complete control over it. I think that in 10 years we’ll all have car…

I understand where you are coming from, and support you on that. On the other hand, I'm pretty happy with the default state of an iPhone. It just manages itself, and all that hard problems (backups, updates, ease of use, experience homogenity, etc.) are solved. I manage more than enough servers at work, and I don't want to manage another server in my pocket, do nitty-gritty settings, allow selected apps background ac…

Exactly the same sentiment for me. I use both devices and I couldn't be more happy with the freedom this allows me.

I own everything about the critical devices I work on, Linux. I have a magical device which "just works" in my Apple products.

If someone breaks this, I'll be sad.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

#438

I want the option to control my devices. I don’t understand the arguments that claim Apple needs to rule the device with an iron fist. What problems does it cause to make the locked down experience the default with the option for me to disable that and take control of the device after I buy it? I want to own my stuff. I want to repair it and I want complete control over it. I think that in 10 years we’ll all have car…

I understand where you are coming from, and support you on that. On the other hand, I'm pretty happy with the default state of an iPhone. It just manages itself, and all that hard problems (backups, updates, ease of use, experience homogenity, etc.) are solved. I manage more than enough servers at work, and I don't want to manage another server in my pocket, do nitty-gritty settings, allow selected apps background ac…

I think it is about having an ADDITIONAL option to access things not about taking the "Lock me down, I don't care"-status away.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

#439

I want the option to control my devices. I don’t understand the arguments that claim Apple needs to rule the device with an iron fist. What problems does it cause to make the locked down experience the default with the option for me to disable that and take control of the device after I buy it? I want to own my stuff. I want to repair it and I want complete control over it. I think that in 10 years we’ll all have car…

I understand where you are coming from, and support you on that. On the other hand, I'm pretty happy with the default state of an iPhone. It just manages itself, and all that hard problems (backups, updates, ease of use, experience homogenity, etc.) are solved. I manage more than enough servers at work, and I don't want to manage another server in my pocket, do nitty-gritty settings, allow selected apps background ac…

>settings persistence on Android is just not present

As opposed to Apple quietly changing airdrop behavior based on what opinions the CCP has on freedom of speech?

I get why you like Apple and voluntarily submit yourself and all your private data to the comfort of the JustWorks (TM) ecosystem, but after their whole "we're gonna keep scanning pics on your device (actually our device) for CP", there's no way I'm trading my freedom and privacy for the sake of a little bit of comfort Apple's ecosystem offers.

Also, If Apple would open up their OS/ecosystem more, it means other SW vendors could offer the same quality of life of Apple's own apps, such as easy backups, photos and music, etc. but since Apple has everything locked down in their favor, of course only their apps work the best on iOS and alternative are always second class. Microsoft was sued for this in the past for monopolizing certain app segments by shipping them as default with Windows (Internet Explorer, Media Player, etc).

In the end, I trust no billion dollar publicly listed mega-corp to own my data and lease it back to me for a monthly fee, as they're beholden to their shareholders who demand constant revenue growth, and once they capture the majority market share (they already have in the US) and the users are locked in to their comfy ecosystem, there's nothing stopping them from selling users out to advertisers to generate the revenue growth demanded by the shareholders. What are their users gonna do, leave the ecosystem and 10+ years of purchases and backups behind and move to Android lol?

Not being part of "The Ecosystem (TM)" in the first place, means I'm free to walk away to a competitor whenever I sense the vendor is shifting its behavior in ways that are not in my best interest, at the cost of more time and effort to manage my services individually. Basically don't put all your eggs in one basket should be the possibility on mobile devices.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

#440

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I want the option to control my devices. So don’t buy an iPhone. You know that’s not the offer.

Better: We (the people) ban you from selling phones in our rich and prosperous land if you don’t comply. Signed: Everyone

If you seriously think is a majority opinion you need to get out more. The average person wants strong device security, look at the press and angst attracted by cybercrime in recent times.
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