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Ask HN: How do you overcome feeling completely lost in life?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you overcome feeling completely lost in life?

#81
Interesting question. I’ve felt lost most of my life but haven’t consciously thought of trying to overcome the feeling itself. Lately I’ve been looking at humans and animals as all not knowing why we’re here but doing stuff anyway and wondering why and what’s the point. I’m exploring the idea of the point being to just be and if that’s the case then how can I be the most alive in any given moment. I’ve been examining when I feel the most alive and how to have more of those moments. For you it seems you’re unable to identify those moments but you mentioned you have had a few highs. I wonder if that’s a good place to start. Whatever you were doing leading up to those moments, do more of that. See what’s tangential and explore from there. As others have said, you’re not alone. I hope you figure out ways to have more moments of feeling less lost

Re: Ask HN: How do you overcome feeling completely lost in life?

#82

My advice is this: Become a different person. Take your life and incinerate it. Not literally of course. I mean completely change what and who you are. You’re an accomplished software engineer at 30? Great. You’re done doing that. Go buy a $15k trailer, get a truck, and hit the road. Stop looking at screens, only read books. Stop working a job behind a desk, find something else, or if you can afford it don’t work at…

Sorry, but I think this is bad advice. It sounds wise and clever on the Internet, but in reality it's just an extension of the "consumer experience" mentality that leads to the society-wide feeling of malaise OP is experiencing. Because the fact is, doing a bunch of random things doesn't lead to any real insight about the human experience or what one's place in it ought to be. Instead, I suggest that OP (and anyone e…

I don't think the advice is completely bad, but it doesn't seem to tackle the core issue. Getting out of the comfort zone, being exposed to a new environment and trying out new things can definitely help in order to figure out what to do in life and how to find meaning.

Re: Ask HN: How do you overcome feeling completely lost in life?

#83
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My advice is this: Become a different person. Take your life and incinerate it. Not literally of course. I mean completely change what and who you are. You’re an accomplished software engineer at 30? Great. You’re done doing that. Go buy a $15k trailer, get a truck, and hit the road. Stop looking at screens, only read books. Stop working a job behind a desk, find something else, or if you can afford it don’t work at…

> What’s there to be afraid of, really? Incinerating your life, trying all these new things, only to find that the emptiness returns shortly, and now it is no longer paired with a dependable income.

Unless you have mouths to feed, or someone who needs money for medical issues, who cares if you lose a dependable income? Why make decisions based in fear? Fear that you won’t be able to survive, that you won’t be able to make it. Have more confidence in yourself. You’ll adapt, and probably be even better off with the wisdom you’ve accumulated.

Re: Ask HN: How do you overcome feeling completely lost in life?

#84

Sounds like you are depressed. It happens to a lot of us. There’s no answer. Depression is sometimes just there. No, exercise won’t fix it. Neither will eating well. Maybe do an appointment with a doctor and see how that goes. Maybe see a therapist? It might help to just talk to someone not emotionally invested. Best of luck.

Exercise and a better diet are proven to help with depression. They aren't cures, but they can help. Speaking to someone such as a therapist or doctor is great advice.

Re: Ask HN: How do you overcome feeling completely lost in life?

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. From a purely secular perspective, having a consistent community to participate in seems to be an innate human need that churches supplied for a long time. There are plenty of other ways to meet that need nowadays that are especially attractive given the poor example that some Christians set. My hope is that people find satisfaction in life one way or another.

“poor example that some Christians set?”…can you recommend any group of ~1B people that doesn’t have members that “set a bad example”? Do you think you yourself could stand that scrutiny? (I doubt it.) The OP says he is feeling lost. Following a map sounds like the sort of thing you do if you are lost. Any of the core scriptures of any of the major religions has the sort of map the OP may be looking for. Read deeply…

Lots of folks including myself have experienced church hurt within the Christian community. I’m just leaving the door open to acknowledge those experiences and set them apart as being distinct from the message of the gospel.

Re: Ask HN: How do you overcome feeling completely lost in life?

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> There is an old Eastern fable about a traveler who is taken unawares on the steppes by a ferocious wild animal. In order to escape the beast the traveler hides in an empty well, but at the bottom of the well he sees a dragon with its jaws open, ready to devour him. The poor fellow does not dare to climb out because he is afraid of being eaten by the rapacious beast, neither does he dare drop to the bottom of the we…

Tolstoy's Confession is a short yet quite thoughtful read that I'm glad I happened to stumble on many years ago. I'm due for a reread. Even if you don't agree with the conclusions he comes to in there, you will likely relate to the struggles he shares.

Herman Hesse's Siddhartha gave me a somewhat similar feeling after finishing it, which I'm also overdue for a reread.

Re: Ask HN: How do you overcome feeling completely lost in life?

#89
The restaurant industry has been completely wrecked. Maybe pick up a line-cook or other back of house gig. Since it’s fairly easy work to pick up, you can shop around a bit. You might not even need to give them a resume, just ask to talk to a manager and tell them you’re looking to pick some kitchen work up. There are places that’ll just toss you an apron. It can be a pretty hard job at times but there is a lot of bonding and some have a great atmosphere that will feel like family after a while. Just an idea, you’ll get some life skills and free food. Food trucks are actually kind of a neat middle ground and the hours could be easier on your schedule if you tell them you can only work weekends and some dinners. It’ll be very tight inside so guaranteed bonding over a scorching hot summer. You’ll work with young people still in the friend making frame of mind.

Re: Ask HN: How do you overcome feeling completely lost in life?

#90
You seem like a person I can relate to. I felt way you do too, only I had a wife and kids. Then I burnt it all down and went to prison by allowing escapes/shortcuts to become habits, habits replace actual living, and ultimately prison. Let me give you my ex-con wisdom.

1. You are worth getting to know. You are worthy of friendship. This isn't a medium for it, but in another medium I would love to sit down with you and understand you. The fact that you are self aware enough and motived enough to post this here interests me in your story.

2. You are worthy of being loved! I 100% can see from this post a human being that is worthy and deserving of that!

3. You have to NOT make decisions for other people. That isn't fair. Instead of developing healthy relationships where I interacted with people, I instead interacted with made up versions of them in my head, often with the conclusion I wasn't worthy of bothering them/taking their time, or in the case of my spouse, being 100% fully honest with them for the sake of avoiding difficult discussions (that we could have both grown from if I had given us that opportunity). STOP. Let them decide if they want to answer your phone call/email/however you kids are communicating these day. Never make decisions for them.

Case in point, I almost didn't call my son on Thanksgiving because he would be with my exs family and I didn't want to make it awkward. But guess what, if he doesn't want to he doesn't have to answer the phone. But if I don't call, I take away him getting to make that choice. I called and he told me how he was making my special 'secret recipe' that I had taught only him so that I was still a part of his Thanksgiving. My Thanksgiving went from incredibly horrible to having a bright spot because I DIDN'T MAKE THE CHOICE FOR HIM. Let people choose, don't choose for them by not communicating.

4. This is it. It's our only life. You want it to be a movie or some great novel. But you probably aren't going to save the world or alter the course of history. But that's OK. You can still choose, are you the hero or the villain in YOUR story? And this is enough. It's no just enough, it's NEEDED.

5. The universe is chaos and indifference. Everyone you know or care about will die one day. Anything you build will barely outlast your lifetime. Today is EVERYTHING. Your approx. 60 trips around one yellow dwarf star out of the 200 billion trillion stars is it. If I offered you a trip to visit only Paris for two weeks would you pass it up because there are 10,000 other cities and only visiting one city isn't enough? That because the trip offered is only 2 weeks and you can't accomplish everything you want in 2 weeks it isn't enough time and not worth taking? Heck no, you would take the trip to Paris. But somehow an unbroken chain of life, driving itself to survive over hundreds of millions of years, leading to your unique chance to experience your life is not enough? Come on dude, you are a little inflated on what constitutes 'enough' is.

Look at your life differently. It's not only enough, it's MORE than enough. It's a LIFETIME worth of experiences. You think it's not much, but when I was locked in a prison cell the size of an elevator, with a cellie, bunk bed, lockers, desk, chair for over a year because of COVID, with all normal rights like going outside denied because COVID I would close my eyes and go back to even my most mundane previous days like they were a day spent at Disneyland. I could choose what to eat? I could choose to have hot water to make tea/coffee? OMG was I spoiled in those dream days.

6. Be present. But that means more than all the self help BS. It also means be 100% honest. People deserve that, you deserve that. It's ok to be you. People don't have to accept you. I tried to have everyone like me. I learned in prison not only can you make have everyone like you, most people aren't worth even knowing you.

7. Strange one here. Drink less coffee. It's numbing, it sharpens your mind in non-social directions but dulls social/emotional needs. It is amazing when I need to be a code monkey drone or weight lifting beast, but adds nothing to me living a fulfilled life. Caffeine to motivation is the equivalent of fast food to nurishment. It will keep you going, but it's not going to take you where you want.

8. Look people in the eyes. Shake their hands when you see them. Be happy to see them. Call them by their name. Let them know that they are seen. The downside, so many hungry/thirsty people who are hurting and unseen will try to latch on to you because you see them when most don't. So be honest with them don't fake friendship is you don't feel it with someone.

Mainly you are worthy and deserving of friendship and love, and unless you happen to luck out probably won't find either until you understand that. You have no right to make choices for others, so call them, ask them to do things, give them the opportunity to make choices for themselves. You won a free trip to experience the universe as adantical. Be grateful for that and not upset you didn't get to be Brad Pitt or someone else. Others deserve to have the person known as adantical at HN treat them with 100% honesty, and you deserve to be able to be 100% to who you are. This doesn't mean everyone has to accept your or what you say, don't expect that. Others get to be honest too, and their honesty is a gift to you, when again, dishonesty could be easier in the moment. Shortcuts to goals, including simple things like stimulants such as coffee, or finding community in places like HN that ultimately can't develop to what you want, can not be allowed to develop from shortcuts to habits, and from habits to completely replacing those things you need.

Finally, as we told each other in prison 'Keep your head up!'

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