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Bullying seems to be a human universal. This is really sad and it makes me wonder what come be done? Lord of the Flies is the most realistic book about children that I know.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/09/the-real-lord-...
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I’m not sure if there’s data/studies on this, but I feel that bullying is a bigger problem in the US than in eg Europe and Asia. If so, would like to see more discussion on why that is and how we could improve things by comparing
I came to similar conclusion. My children go to an elementary school in Canada and there is bullying even in good schools. The things that these little kids do is incomprehensible to me. I went to elementary school in USSR and I never saw what my children experience in Canada(at least I don't remember it, but I do know that the schools in USSR had bullying issues with teenagers). Is it because children have too much…
Well, unless you count getting griefed on MC as bullying...
It's actually a different problem than most people realize. What happens is that you have criminal assault and abuse being tolerated by adults and then blaming the victims. To try to understand, take the behavior of the "bullies" and imagine it is being done by adults. It really comes down to a lack of responsibility and accountability for managing the behavior of children in schools. Instead of dealing with children…
It seems to be very hard to distinguish between bullying and rough play. Rough play is a developmental requirement (particularly for young boys) across the hominoid clade (and likely wider). Being denied it also has real and lifelong consequences. For further reading, Frans de Waal has done a lot of work in this area. Educational policy informed by this research usually looks not to intervene in physical conflict bet…
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Rough play is voluntary, being a victim of bullying isn't. I say this as someone who engaged in rough play, got bullied, and was a bully, at different times.
Learning how to respond to antisocial behaviour by a peer, and being able to resolve conflict independently, are two very important skills that it's critical to learn. Being seen as someone who needs adult help to resolve peer conflict is socially disastrous for young people. We do children no favours by intervening in this developmental process.
Will you do the same when your child is being bullied? How do you think that may affect them and their relationship with you? How do you think a child feels when they realize that the adults around them do not have their back? What does it do to their sense of safety and their self-esteem?
I have lived through this and have my personal take on these questions, but I'd love to learn about yours.
I was bullied pretty severely as a kid. So bad in fact I was put on medication just to deal with it. I was a weaker kid when I was younger owing to the fact I was sick a lot. In America there is a concept of "zero tolerance" that keeps the bullied compliant and the bullies in charge. It was not until I started to get very violent that the bullying stopped. I would fight at a moments notice even sometimes in classroom…
>> Bullies aren't beat enough at home This I have to disagree with. Some of them I believe have a terrible home life and are handing down the abuse to whomever is a weak target. You may be right in other cases though, and that had never occurred to me. Lack of respect and self control may stem from neglect or lack of parenting rather than abuse.
The violence rate of east Asians who were spanked at home hard by their parents is likely astronomically lower than Americans who weren't spanked.
It's not about being spanked, it's about why you were spanked. Be just.
This reminds me that I should write down the experiences I remember as a child, including being chased over three miles by half a dozen kids. I finally crossed into an older woman’s yard, she recognized what was happening and asked me inside. I’ll never forget the beautiful polar bear rug in her living room. She got her keys and drove me home. Lucky for me I sprouted between elementary and junior high, I also got mea…
I wish we could be honest with our kids that sometimes you need to be mean in order to not be destroyed by mean people.
Reminder that this study is only showing a correlation. It could also be the well-known effect that "weaker" (physically or mentally) people are more likely to be bullied. The way to test causation is to have a "control" group with normal environmental bullying levels, and a second group which is otherwise identical to the first, randomly targeted by the scientists for extra bullying. This would of course be unethica…
>Establishing temporal priority – what come first, bullying victimisation or poor mental health – is an essential first step. Indeed, one important alternative hypothesis that must be ruled out is that early mental health symptoms account for both an increased risk for being targeted by bullying behaviours and also for later psychopathology. Findings so far have shown that over and above early signs of poor mental health prior to bullying victimisation, being bullied in childhood or in adolescence is associated with new symptoms/diagnoses of mental health problems, and especially with later symptoms of anxiety and depression (Arseneault et al., 2006; Bowes, Joinson, Wolke, & Lewis, 2015; Kim, Leventhal, Koh, Hubbard, & Boyce, 2006; Stapinski et al., 2014; Zwierzynska, Wolke, & Leraya, 2013). These studies are robust not only because they controlled for symptoms prior to being bullied but they also controlled for a range of other potential confounders, including gender, parental socioeconomic status and low IQ.
I was bullied pretty severely as a kid. So bad in fact I was put on medication just to deal with it. I was a weaker kid when I was younger owing to the fact I was sick a lot. In America there is a concept of "zero tolerance" that keeps the bullied compliant and the bullies in charge. It was not until I started to get very violent that the bullying stopped. I would fight at a moments notice even sometimes in classroom…
I was bullied quite a bit in school, now my boys are starting school and I have them enrolled in BJJ, and the first time my kids comes home upset because someone was picking on him I'll tell him to put that kid in guard and don't let go until the teachers physical remove him.
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I’m not sure if there’s data/studies on this, but I feel that bullying is a bigger problem in the US than in eg Europe and Asia. If so, would like to see more discussion on why that is and how we could improve things by comparing
Not to downplay the severity of the problem in America, but bullying is pretty damn severe in East Asia. The "nail that sticks up gets hammered down" quote often used to describe the situation there. Search "japan bullying" in Youtube and you'll find a long list of videos talking about the issue in Japan in particular.