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The persistent and pervasive impact of bullying in childhood and adolescence

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Re: The persistent and pervasive impact of bullying in childhood and adolescence

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I have ADHD and Aspergers. Which results in extremely high anxiety. I did not get along with other children or people. In fact; I found them completely boring and had no desire to interact with anyone. My instinct at school was just to avoid them all. Eat alone, hang out in the school library.

I have run into parents who homeschooled their children and let them follow their curiosity. Some of the results I saw them get were completely out of this world. The kids taught themselves multiple languages and instruments.

I’m going to be faced with a similar choice with my kids. I will likely put them through public elementary school. Junior high I feel is abusive to children.

They are going through very complex hormonal and emotional changes and on top of this you dunk them in a tank surrounded by parasites who are garaunteed to act like savages.

With mobile phones and cameras.

I think I could see a strong argument to skip junior high and high school altogether and explore home school.

If anything like what happened to me happens to them (and I honestly didn’t have it that bad), I will seriously consider pulling them out.

The damage that was done to me lasted 15 years. That is unacceptable.

I personally had severe acne. Putting me in junior high to get taunted - irreparable self esteem damage.

Parents need to understand.

Let’s be honest. The elephant in the room is human beings get ahead by bullying Eachother and forming mobs and cliques.

This behavior has shown up at every job I have ever had. The dumber the people are the more likely they will use this “strategy” to get ahead. It is the go to dumb person strategy.

You can only avoid it often by working at smaller companies or developing much better social skills.

Re: The persistent and pervasive impact of bullying in childhood and adolescence

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post #38

I was bullied pretty severely as a kid. So bad in fact I was put on medication just to deal with it. I was a weaker kid when I was younger owing to the fact I was sick a lot. In America there is a concept of "zero tolerance" that keeps the bullied compliant and the bullies in charge. It was not until I started to get very violent that the bullying stopped. I would fight at a moments notice even sometimes in classroom…

> keeps the bullied compliant and the bullies in charge

I've seen some of this in our local schools: meetings held with the head teacher to "hear both sides" when one side is a bully asserting their right to bully the other side.

> kids in an actual martial art

I had this idea, based on my experience as a kid, but never actually got around to enrolling them. They're in college now and so I guess it wasn't necessary.

Re: The persistent and pervasive impact of bullying in childhood and adolescence

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post #31

I attended high school in a not-well-known country (Nigeria) and the amount of bullying I witnessed was unfathomable. I’m talking outright beatings from seniors, and it was legalized (reporting to the school authorities will get you more beatings). I transferred from a chill private school to a public school because, well, my Dad wanted me to have some “experience”…needless to say, the experience I got was that even…

That's just a gang that has taken over a school and the adults are afraid of them.

Haha, yes, unfortunately that’s how it is at virtually all government-run schools in my country…pure cruelty is the order of the day, and I’m not exaggerating.

Re: The persistent and pervasive impact of bullying in childhood and adolescence

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post #36

Being rather contrary here, but is there any evidence that bullying actually improves some people's lives? As a victim of childhood bullying, the experience was awful, but I learned a thing or two as well.

Every experience has something to teach, but that just means all experiences are alike in this one regard. It's an absolutely horrible way to justify the various strains of hell that run through the world.

Please replace the word bullying in your question with the word rape or mutilation or imprisonment or starvation and see how horrible that line of thinking is.

Re: The persistent and pervasive impact of bullying in childhood and adolescence

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This is very important to talk about. I think I still have issues from being bullied and I am in my 40s now. My issues are anger, but more importantly social anxiety and much worse social skills than I wish to have at this age.

Just in case any psychologist are reading this, I would like to point out a type of bullying that I experienced but it is never talked about. It is basically sexual harassment by closeted homosexuals. One kind of assumes that homosexuals are these fey, thin mild mannered and fashionable kids, but in reality a lot of the fat nasty bullies were self hating closet homosexuals. I was always a target for them because I had this childhood disease that made me very thin and tall and pale, and apparently that is very attractive to those scumbags.

And they bullied me verbally and physically and always made me feel like shit. The worst part is I did not know what was happening to me because I did not know much about homosexuality (I grew up in a communist regime that preferred to sweep that stuff under the rug). So I grew up thinking there was something seriously wrong with me.

There is a lot of talk about bullying of gays in school, but there is also the problem of bullying of heterosexuals by homosexuals. To solve this, schools should teach their kids about homosexuality early. Probably as soon as puberty because by then these kids will be confronted by it. And while schools do teach that sexual harassments is wrong they should make it clear that the same holds true for homosexuals. I have a feeling that a lot of gays think they are special and above the general society rules about sexual harassment. Even in my forties I still get my drinks spiked from time to time! And most importantly teachers should be taught to recognize and prevent sexual harassment in the homosexual context as well as the hetero one.

Re: The persistent and pervasive impact of bullying in childhood and adolescence

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post #36

Being rather contrary here, but is there any evidence that bullying actually improves some people's lives? As a victim of childhood bullying, the experience was awful, but I learned a thing or two as well.

Bullying encompasses such a broad range of actions, it's possible some cases can be a strengthening/educating experience in hindsight, but others can be absolutely life destroying. My experiences with bullying were pretty mild. I'd say they taught me patience and standing up for myself when it's the right time. But they were mild experiences. I can't imagine the impact of what I've seen in some videos taken by high schoolers.

Re: The persistent and pervasive impact of bullying in childhood and adolescence

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I have ADHD and Aspergers. Which results in extremely high anxiety. I did not get along with other children or people. In fact; I found them completely boring and had no desire to interact with anyone. My instinct at school was just to avoid them all. Eat alone, hang out in the school library. I have run into parents who homeschooled their children and let them follow their curiosity. Some of the results I saw them g…

> [guaranteed] to act like savages.

While assigning them to read and discuss Lord of the Flies...

Re: The persistent and pervasive impact of bullying in childhood and adolescence

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This reminds me that I should write down the experiences I remember as a child, including being chased over three miles by half a dozen kids. I finally crossed into an older woman’s yard, she recognized what was happening and asked me inside. I’ll never forget the beautiful polar bear rug in her living room. She got her keys and drove me home. Lucky for me I sprouted between elementary and junior high, I also got mea…

I wish we could be honest with our kids that sometimes you need to be mean in order to not be destroyed by mean people.

I consider people who aren’t honest with children about this to be bad people:

They’re helping the abuse by lying to those children in their role as a trusted adult.

Re: The persistent and pervasive impact of bullying in childhood and adolescence

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post #38

I was bullied pretty severely as a kid. So bad in fact I was put on medication just to deal with it. I was a weaker kid when I was younger owing to the fact I was sick a lot. In America there is a concept of "zero tolerance" that keeps the bullied compliant and the bullies in charge. It was not until I started to get very violent that the bullying stopped. I would fight at a moments notice even sometimes in classroom…

A famous American college basketball coach once said "A basketball fight generally lasts two punches. Make sure you throw both of them."

Re: The persistent and pervasive impact of bullying in childhood and adolescence

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post #28

It's actually a different problem than most people realize. What happens is that you have criminal assault and abuse being tolerated by adults and then blaming the victims. To try to understand, take the behavior of the "bullies" and imagine it is being done by adults. It really comes down to a lack of responsibility and accountability for managing the behavior of children in schools. Instead of dealing with children…

I’m not sure if there’s data/studies on this, but I feel that bullying is a bigger problem in the US than in eg Europe and Asia. If so, would like to see more discussion on why that is and how we could improve things by comparing
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