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Post by kube-system »

fsflover wrote: post #699
kube-system wrote: post #574

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The Librem 5 is not completely open -- neither the hardware nor software. https://puri.sm/faq/ The Librem 5 is the best effort to this date, but the wifi, bluetooth, and baseband software are proprietary, as well as much of the silicon, and part of the boot chain. There simply aren't any open source options that exist for these components, and due to regulatory constraints, it's unlikely that an open source baseband…

You are right. For the ultimate openness, you could have a look at Precursor, but it's not really a phone.

The silicon on it is also proprietary. The wifi radio is fully proprietary, and while the FPGA is programmable, the silicon is proprietary.

It does solve the mobile radio problem though, by not having one :)

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

selfhoster11 wrote: post #694
funcDropShadow wrote: post #687

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They could make that transition, of course. But look at all the countries that somehow got rid of dictators in this century. How many of those turned into stable, free, and democratic societies? Afghanistan? Iraq? Egypt? Lybia? If you add ten more years, did it work out for Russia? Belarus? Ukraine? It did work out for Poland, Latvia and some others. But getting rid of an oppressive regime is the easy part of transfo…

Take a look at Eastern Europe. Many countries were either directly or indirectly under the Soviet thumb, and dare I say, they are much better off now that they can rule themselves independently. At least any mess they make is of their own making, rather than centrally imposed.

I guess what parent is saying that for every Poland, we seem to have an Afghanistan ( the odds of favorable outcome are hit or miss ). One would hope people in charge in US are actually studying the whys behind the failures and successes, because even without access to privileged information one could infer some reasons for both. I would especially like to hope that we learn from our mistakes ( as those tend to result in much greater level of misery for all ; in the event of success everyone is just patting themselves on the back ).

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Post by simion314 »

andreyvit wrote: post #688
simion314 wrote: post #682

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So in this case where someone has for some special event to enable this feature they can get a few options. I was asking because Apple and GNOME fanboys claim that the average user is incapable to choose for themselves. But honestly in this case they needed to release it globally, then designers would be happy they removed a feature, Apple could continue selling the idea that they respect human rights and privacy.

Sure, in any particular case, users could handle multiple options. But if you add multiple options in every similar ambiguous case, your phone suddenly becomes an Android or worse. And those who want that can already use Android; as someone who prefers the minimalistic design of Apple, I sure don't want options to multiply and spread in the UI, even if it occasionally means working around some limitation.

I don't believe this, a good designer can handle the task of showing all important options in a intuitive way and hide some of the stuff in an Advanced section.

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Post by randomdata »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #705
randomdata wrote: post #674

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> The people who make decisions have a fiduciary obligation to maximize shareholder profits. This is a myth. There is an obligation to serve the share holders' "best interests", but that doesn't necessarily mean profitability. It probably doesn't mean maximizing profitability a lot of the time as shareholders are not single dimensional characters. Often shareholders of public companies are just plain old people with…

> It probably doesn't mean maximizing profitability a lot of the time as shareholders are not single dimensional characters. If you look at any shareholder lawsuits - it's pretty clear what the obligation means, what you get sued for, and what you'll lose a lawsuit over. The vast majority of Apple shares outstanding aren't owned by people who want to turn it into the world police or a charity. They want a return on t…

> If you look at any shareholder lawsuits

Indeed. And you will find that not maximizing profitability doesn't always lose. But if shareholders are suing for not maximizing profitability then that indicates that there are no other competing concerns among the shareholders, so no doubt it would be a challenge to defend that. It would be easier to defend more complex cases where there is nuance. As mentioned before, profit is the one thing – and probably the only thing – that is easy to communicate at scale.

> They want a return on their investment - not to turn their investment into a charitable donation to make the world a better place.

Shareholders want their world to be a better place. Profits are one way to grease that, but not when it is at odds with competing interests. There are countless examples where companies have not sought maximized profits to seek other benefits instead. Shareholders have to live in the world they create after all. Granted, because communication at scale is hard there are unintended consequences to be found.

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Post by karaterobot »

xpe wrote: post #588
karaterobot wrote: post #55

If you buy Apple products and call for Apple to change their behavior, it will have much less of an effect on their decision making than if you stopped buying their products.

I'm not sure I'm following the options you are comparing. (A) keep buying and criticize (B) stop buying Correct? What am I missing here? (B) has a bigger impact and sends a bigger signal. Right? Talk is cheap. Leaving the Apple ecosystem is hard and demonstrates a very serious complaint.

A. Criticize but keep buying

B. Criticize and stop buying

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Post by thatguy0900 »

FranDanny wrote: post #693
thatguy0900 wrote: post #672

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People in China have burner Apple phones? That sounds kind of crazy. Even if jailbroken I doubt they are mitigating for this.

There are markets in China where you can buy all the parts super cheap and build your own iPhone. It's like nothing you'd ever see in the western world. Hundreds of stalls all selling an individual specific selection of phone components, and if you ask for something they don't have, they'll recommend their friend's stall to you. Apple have sold billions of iPhones. All those second hand "recycled" parts go somewhere.

That sounds like an incredible place to visit

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Post by vdqtp3 »

account42 wrote: post #706
oceanplexian wrote: post #685

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I know it’s in vogue to blame capitalism, like our economic system is a faceless AI that decides things in a perfectly efficient market (It’s not). Behind the curtain there are humans making decisions. They may be hedge funds, investors, board members, etc. There are humans that deliberately want to do business with China and know exactly what is happening with those workers. It wasn’t capitalism that outsourced iPho…

Capitalism is blamed because it is the system that lets those morally bankrupt people get rich of those decisions without any real consequences.

As opposed to socialism and communism where morally bankrupt leaders are unable to get rich off their decisions with no consequences?

Power and corruption are ubiquitous in every system.

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Post by horsawlarway »

yamtaddle wrote: post #335
horsawlarway wrote: post #283

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But hey - I'm free to send multicast packets from that iphone on a network I own, right? Because part of the learning is the doing things with the skills you learn later. I'm free to install software I write on that iphone, right? I'm free to sell the software I write using those skills to those other people, without risk of Apple arbitrarily shutting me out, right? Or much more malicious, moving me down below their…

My point is that broadly speaking, learning computing is something like 100x more accessible than it was in the "good old days", and that mostly holds even on an i-device. I couldn't (practically) develop for my NES, either. But it'd have been rad if I could at least write software on it that'd run somewhere else. Or in a sandboxed environment on the NES, also allowing me to share it, even if the capabilities were a…

They might not be harming the learning (I'd argue they are) - But they are unquestionably harming the practice.

You keep harping back to some bullshit hand-me-down machines, as though that's what my customers will want to carry in their pocket. As though that's the ideal machine to implement software on - and I'd argue you're just soundly avoiding the real discussion by mentioning them (perhaps intentionally, given your fascination).

Trust me, I fucking have those machines, they're great for some things (they run my home network, they run my home cluster) - but they're not the things that people walk around with. They're not the computer in everyone's pocket. They're not the laptop my potential user-base is working on at work.

Doesn't it strike you as somewhat sad and pathetic that you're arguing that folks who want to do general purpose computing should be relegated to cast off devices, or be subject to the whims and mercy of the richest company in the world? Begging for the scraps after Apple shoves their own products right to the top, cuts off and strangles any real competition, charges racket money to allow users to even install your damn software, prevents you from using the devices they claim you own?

Pathetic. Locked down proprietary systems that trap folks in what they believe is a benevolent dictatorship. At some point you'll look around and realize you're being robbed blind. You claim to value learning computer skills, without realizing the learning has NO value without the ability to use those skills. And if you can only use those skills when Apple lets you... who's really in control?

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Post by horsawlarway »

acdha wrote: post #551
horsawlarway wrote: post #406

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His 80 year old mother isn't using MacOS. She's on an ipad or an iphone - where I do genuinely think I can't install my own software. They're both perfectly fine general purpose machines - except apple holds the keys to the engine, and only hands them out when they approve of the use case.

I think it’s useful to remember why so many people jumped to iPads, because we did that experiment for a couple decades. When people have the ability to install arbitrary code we know they will, and will click through almost any warning if they’ve been promised money, games, or porn. I think the sandboxing approach is getting closer to where you could potentially safely have third-party stores but I think that would…

They didn't jump to a completely new category of device because of the toolbars and malicious software.

They bought them because it was a new category of device (and extensive marketing from Apple - although I don't mean to discount the product with that statement - very solid phones, but also very excellent marketing). If anything - the early tech adopters moved to the iphone because it was more open than the existing phones at the time, which were definitely not general purpose computers. The iphone got us halfway there - I'd like to see us take the last few steps.

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Post by throwaway290 »

LinkLink wrote: post #649
jinseokim wrote: post #488

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Note: AirDrop is unsafe for broadcasting message anonymously. It will also broadcast your hashed phone number and email[1], which can be reversed by rainbow table. [1]: https://privatedrop.github.io/

True, but invalidated by burner and jailbroken phones which are widespread in China. They can definitely catch somebody with a concerted effort but I'd be surprised if the average Chinese teenager couldnt figure out how to make a burner email

Devil's advocate: If you already don't worry about exposing this info then why not just use Telegram or Signal?
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