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Post by zimpenfish »

smoldesu wrote: post #658
mrep wrote: post #554

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Foxconn does assembly and that is not a big cost of an iphone [0]. Like literally just a fraction compared to American IP, Taiwan CPUs, or Japanese cameras and the latter are all much harder to move compared to assembly. [0]: https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/apple-iphone-7-and-...

Whatever the case is, Apple took their sweet time making changes. Microsoft, Google and even Facebook pulled out of China years ago, and Apple is acting like a storied history of human rights abuses is news to them.

> [...], Google and even [...] pulled out of China years ago

Wasn't the Pixel 6 assembled by Foxconn? And the upcoming Pixel 7 / foldables apparently also going to be assembled by Foxconn? That's not pulling out...

[edit to clarify we're only talking about Google]

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by simion314 »

Terretta wrote: post #635
simion314 wrote: post #512

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Do you think your wife could handle one extra option that is not the default where some users could change the 10 minutes to 1 or more hours? Or is that too many options for the average users?

She's got no problem with settings, but it's preferable if it remembers for you to turn it back off. What Apple does for a lot of things (see Focus, or DND) is "until I leave this place" (or event if in a calendared event) and "until tomorrow", those make more sense to me than a particular time frame.

So in this case where someone has for some special event to enable this feature they can get a few options. I was asking because Apple and GNOME fanboys claim that the average user is incapable to choose for themselves.

But honestly in this case they needed to release it globally, then designers would be happy they removed a feature, Apple could continue selling the idea that they respect human rights and privacy.

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Post by baxtr »

blamazon wrote: post #351
baxtr wrote: post #333

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Thanks for getting back. That explanation makes more sense now. I can see how this limit would make free data exchange much more difficult. I am still not convinced that by this protests are “quashed”. We’ll see about that I guess.

I appreciate your willingness to discuss! :)

Yeah sure :) I’m here to learn.

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Post by Someone »

frosted-flakes wrote: post #570
int_19h wrote: post #547

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That would be because IRA remains the sole government of Afghanistan recognized by relevant agencies such as UN. Which companies generally defer to when they came, because it cuts down on a lot of individual political decisions they'd have to make otherwise. Yandex is an interesting showcase of how bad this can get - they literally dropped country borders from their maps last year "for better user experience". And I…

Google Maps also does this when the border is under contention. Selecting a country with a contested border like Ukraine or Russia will only highlight the country name, but selecting a country with uncontested borders like Poland or Germany will draw a red outline around the country.

Nitpick: technically, the border between Germany and the Netherlands is semi-contested. The countries agreed to disagree about its exact location. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany–Netherlands_border#D...:

“The maritime border is disputed in a part of the Ems estuary outside the Dollart bay, where Germany has the view that the state border runs on the left bank of the Ems, while the Netherlands regards the Thalweg as its border.

[…]

In 2014 the two nations' foreign ministers met to put an end to the dispute. It was decided that the border should remain ambiguous and responsibility for the region in question shared”

More info (in German) at https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsch-Niederländische_Grenzf....

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Post by oceanplexian »

kelnos wrote: post #281
snoot wrote: post #229

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Nope. They were taking about Apple cracking down. That’s not the same as being forced to make a software change at the governments demand.

That doesn't make it better, though. Plenty of companies have decided not to do business in China on ethical grounds. Hell, even Google pulled out of China way back when, a company I certainly don't think all that highly of. Yes, not doing business in China means less revenue, and unhappy shareholders. This is why capitalism sucks: it more or less requires companies do unethical things, when not doing those things me…

I know it’s in vogue to blame capitalism, like our economic system is a faceless AI that decides things in a perfectly efficient market (It’s not).

Behind the curtain there are humans making decisions. They may be hedge funds, investors, board members, etc. There are humans that deliberately want to do business with China and know exactly what is happening with those workers. It wasn’t capitalism that outsourced iPhone production to a sweat shop, it was a group of real people who are morally bankrupt.

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Post by ospider »

racl101 wrote: post #407
fimdomeio wrote: post #280

Here’s to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes… the ones who see things differently...

That was Steve Jobs' mantra. Not Tim Apple's. Different administration.

Jobs might just leave China.

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Post by funcDropShadow »

stickfigure wrote: post #667
A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #483

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Hmm, I see this sentiment often, but I am not entirely certain people go through it beyond the initial 'feels good' analysis. If there is one thing that US population probably should be aware of, it is that succeeding regime will not automatically be to one's advantage ( devil known kinda deal ). Say what you want about old age, but it does force you to recognize certain level of stability as desirable.

Taiwan made the transition to democracy. No reason why the mainlanders can't.

They could make that transition, of course. But look at all the countries that somehow got rid of dictators in this century. How many of those turned into stable, free, and democratic societies? Afghanistan? Iraq? Egypt? Lybia?

If you add ten more years, did it work out for Russia? Belarus? Ukraine? It did work out for Poland, Latvia and some others. But getting rid of an oppressive regime is the easy part of transforming an autocracy into democracy.

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Post by andreyvit »

simion314 wrote: post #682
Terretta wrote: post #635

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She's got no problem with settings, but it's preferable if it remembers for you to turn it back off. What Apple does for a lot of things (see Focus, or DND) is "until I leave this place" (or event if in a calendared event) and "until tomorrow", those make more sense to me than a particular time frame.

So in this case where someone has for some special event to enable this feature they can get a few options. I was asking because Apple and GNOME fanboys claim that the average user is incapable to choose for themselves. But honestly in this case they needed to release it globally, then designers would be happy they removed a feature, Apple could continue selling the idea that they respect human rights and privacy.

Sure, in any particular case, users could handle multiple options. But if you add multiple options in every similar ambiguous case, your phone suddenly becomes an Android or worse. And those who want that can already use Android; as someone who prefers the minimalistic design of Apple, I sure don't want options to multiply and spread in the UI, even if it occasionally means working around some limitation.

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Post by [deleted] »

mikysco wrote: post #29

It's difficult to defend Apple in this scenario but Apple's relationship with China is just like every other company's (western or otherwise) - at the end of the day, China holds all the cards. If you don't bow to their authoritarian edict, you are kicked out of the country. The energy and anger should (as per usual) be directed at China and the Chinese communist party to a much greater degree than Apple. I'm assumin…

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Post by [deleted] »

HardlyCurious wrote: post #60
mhoad wrote: post #38

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This is a breathtakingly naive take. Like yes sure, get mad at the CCP but Apple have a long history of shit like this. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/20/apple-u...

We need sanctions. You can't expect corporations to wage international campaigns for human rights, nor do we want that corporations to exercise such power. We need govt action.

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