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Post by bell-cot »

jackmott42 wrote: post #45
mhoad wrote: post #9

I don’t ever want to hear again how Apple is some champion of privacy and ethics. I’ve lost count of how many scandals have come out of their relationship with China from the suicide nets to the repeated investigations showing their supply chain was riddled with slave labor that they would later campaign against protections that would prevent it. Now this. They are fucked as a company, I can’t get out of their ecosys…

Their ethics are terrible. You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. You can only pay for software on their own store. Complete bullshit, and it makes me sad that so many here on HN and elsehwere, tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so m…

75% of my non-techie relatives who have retired from office jobs in the past 15 years - from workplaces where using MS Windows, Office, etc., etc. was required every working hour - have downsized to having only a iPad and iPhone. And they're completely happy that they did so.

They mostly just want a web browser and e-mail. They buy ~zero non-free apps. And they want the "freedom" you're selling about as much as they want the "authenticity" of living off the land in rural Alaska.

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Post by djanogo »

kennywinker wrote: post #19
elicash wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking of twitter, it's weird Musk hasn't commented yet on the protests in China. Looking forward to him taking on censorship and standing for free speech around the globe, particularly in China.

https://twitter.com/TinaDesireeBerg/status/15955262149359042... To summarize: Elon Musk: "No far left accounts have been banned from twitter" Commenter: "False, here are four examples" Elon Musk: Suspends commenters account. Champion of free speech indeed. Here is same info summarized in newsweek, since we've all learned how trustworthy twitter screenshots are in recent weeks https://www.newsweek.com/activists-accuse…

This is false info, that account was suspended for doxing people, contacting employers of people on Twitter and getting them fired by mass calling the businesses.

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Post by mmmpop »

whimsicalism wrote: post #328
ThePhysicist wrote: post #127

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The timing of the change seems quite conspicuous [1], and it's also weird that Apple would introduce this in China first and only roll it out to the rest of the world next year. The same article mentions that Apple blocks the Taiwanese flag emoji in China, for which it's hard to come up with an explanation other than bowing to censorship. 1: https://chinadigitaltimes.net/2022/11/netizen-voices-apple-r...

Apple certainly tailors the emojis available to the local political climate. They don't, for instance, have the flag of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, instead using the flag of the former Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.

I can still see the Iran flag in all of its unaltered glory here in the US. I guess they missed the memo?

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Post by MBCook »

twobitshifter wrote: post #194
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #97

We heard about this over 2 weeks ago https://www.macrumors.com/2022/11/10/airdrop-10-minute-limit... This is not in response to this particular protest. iOS16 just dropped, so the timing was coincidental I guess.

I realize apple hates options, but adding a 4th option to leave it as everyone indefinitely would have been sooo easy. And I see people were commenting about the protests as a motivating factor 2 weeks ago in that story.

When the CCP says “take that option off phones in China”, you do. Because if you don’t those hundreds of millions of devices they produce for you every year may stop being produced. Or find a new $500/each tariff on them. Or some other company killing thing.

Apple should have hedged years ago, now they’re stuck.

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Post by kube-system »

xvector wrote: post #86
falcolas wrote: post #69

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Google builds phones at Foxconn too. Google has also worked on many projects in order to appeal to China's government as well.

Google doesn’t position themselves as some savior of mankind and human rights. They don’t market grandiose claims about privacy and ethics like Apple does. I’m a bit more okay with Google because at least they aren’t lying through their teeth and hoping their customers are dumb enough to believe them.

What do you think that Apple says that is BS that Google doesn't also say? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AmADoGiWZo

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Post by monocasa »

sergiotapia wrote: post #362
rchaud wrote: post #213

Time for a new operating system (if we didn't already hit that mark with the 2013 NSA leaks). Apple, Google, Samsung, Huawei: they all exist at the pleasure of the state. Please ignore their glitzy PR-laden presentations about protecting people's privacy and upholding human rights. They will sell you out in a second if it's convenient. On the mobile side of things, we need, at the barest minimum: - a web based OS wit…

This sounds like https://serenityos.org/

As much as I love serenity, I think the parent is talking about a mobile OS.

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Post by compiskey »

saiya-jin wrote: post #258
compiskey wrote: post #216

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That’s an overly reductive to prove a biased point. Typical users do not have the same motivations as programmers. The market for connected devices does not have to conform to your expectations. It’s really exhausting pointing out how your argument would effectively force others to produce what satisfies your sensibilities and to protect what you feel is sacrosanct. Programming is “just math”. I don’t need an 8088 to…

Not grokking this knee-jerk reaction to freedom a slightest bit. Freedom to do whatever you want with your own device (which is something companies like Apple and manufacturers of ie household appliances will contest more and more) doesn't mean everybody wants immediately hack the hell out of it. Installing app from any source is not outrageous, I use it for my Pioneer receiver who would otherwise have no remote, I u…

It would require Apple engineer for the use case, and opens them to legal risk in our society.

So the freedom angle to them is they don’t have to schedule the meetings and be compelled to speak the questions and answers to output what you want, or open themselves to repercussions of a hack in a stack that would never be there if they’d not built it.

Because computers are also real resources they’re making devices for a broader audience than computer hackers. The hobbyist hardware scene has a questionable set of ethics given the long term impact of meeting hobbyist demands to consume whatever number of widgets they want, but that’s another thread.

If you’re arguing for an open boot loader, I’m here for it, but you’re going to need to change law to force it; they can freely stick to their choices. Posting grievances such as yours; we’re not oblivious as you seem to believe but HN is not a forum of real influence, preaching to the choir is not influencing anyone that needs to be influenced.

But iOS is a result of workers speaking free of coercion. If the output is not up to your expectations… I dunno what to say except other people don’t have to put you first, you know? Freedom equals tribalism. It’s a demand of freedom to allow tribalism not one size fits all literalism. deal with it gif

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Post by ketzo »

noncoml wrote: post #379
jsnell wrote: post #8

This seems to have been announced a couple of weeks ago, so we don't need to just trust the tweet: https://www.macworld.com/article/1377200/apple-to-limit-aird... Having it open to everyone for only a limited amount of time actually kind of seems like the right thing, but it's hard to come up with a legit explanation for why they rushed that change to China first.

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I know airdrop was pretty big in U.S. protests in summer 2020, and reportedly in Hong Kong as well.

Obviously not very helpful for pre-planning an event, but good to change plans in the moment.

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Post by adam_arthur »

anigbrowl wrote: post #263
nostromo wrote: post #211

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597300125243944961

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33779111

The fact that Apple has threatened to withhold it at all is answer enough. But feel free to live life with your head in the sand
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