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Post by tristor »

jackmott42 wrote: post #45
mhoad wrote: post #9

I don’t ever want to hear again how Apple is some champion of privacy and ethics. I’ve lost count of how many scandals have come out of their relationship with China from the suicide nets to the repeated investigations showing their supply chain was riddled with slave labor that they would later campaign against protections that would prevent it. Now this. They are fucked as a company, I can’t get out of their ecosys…

Their ethics are terrible. You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. You can only pay for software on their own store. Complete bullshit, and it makes me sad that so many here on HN and elsehwere, tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so m…

This exact situation is why this year was the first Thanksgiving that I didn’t spend 3/4 of my visit to my parents doing tech support and cleaning up malware. I bought them Apple hardware last Christmas and I’d do it again.

In 2022 the Internet is a hostile landscape where trillions of dollars are made on the back of malicious adtech by some of the largest companies in the world and there is no pathway for the average user to truly control their own system. At least Apple’s walled garden is better than Microsoft’s brothel and Google’s crackhouse.

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Post by wonnage »

jsnell wrote: post #8

This seems to have been announced a couple of weeks ago, so we don't need to just trust the tweet: https://www.macworld.com/article/1377200/apple-to-limit-aird... Having it open to everyone for only a limited amount of time actually kind of seems like the right thing, but it's hard to come up with a legit explanation for why they rushed that change to China first.

I legitimately don't understand how this has been spun into some sort of pro-censorship move. Leaving your phone open to getting AirDrop-ed by anyone in the vicinity just seems like a terrible idea in general, but especially in China. Apple is helping the authoritarian dictatorship by checks notes not having your phone advertise to everyone nearby that it can receive files from anyone?

The ability for dissidents to airdrop messages to passers-by seems silly as well. All of a sudden spamming people is good due to the content of the message? Never mind that there's nothing stopping the other side from doing the same thing.

It ultimately feels to me like the country that's always in the news for hackers and ubiquitous surveillance should be the last place in the world you want to have AirDrop on, period. Even the contacts-only mode has leaked personal information in the past.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by throwthere »

jackmott42 wrote: post #45
mhoad wrote: post #9

I don’t ever want to hear again how Apple is some champion of privacy and ethics. I’ve lost count of how many scandals have come out of their relationship with China from the suicide nets to the repeated investigations showing their supply chain was riddled with slave labor that they would later campaign against protections that would prevent it. Now this. They are fucked as a company, I can’t get out of their ecosys…

Their ethics are terrible. You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. You can only pay for software on their own store. Complete bullshit, and it makes me sad that so many here on HN and elsehwere, tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so m…

How does that look like bad ethics? You know you’re buying a walled garden with an Apple. If you care, then don’t buy Apple. That doesn't make Apple's ethics bad. It just goes against your prefences.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by 411111111111111 »

vbezhenar wrote: post #123
skeaker wrote: post #103

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Apple quite literally had a scandal where it was exposed in court that they deliberately slow older devices down to prematurely make them appear obsolete so that users will discard them sooner. I'm sure there are Android devices that do this too, but Apple really shouldn't be applauded for the longevity of their devices.

I'm pretty sure this is not true. They slow down the device when battery can't provide enough current to sustain unthrottled CPU. Its happening in the latest iOS. It happened with my 5 year phone few months ago which suddenly turned off. I don't even feel this throttling but it doesn't turn off anymore. On an unrelated note, my Google Pixel 7 just hanged up. It didn't happen to me since windows XP I think. It's the w…

I've got a pixel 6. Its honestly been a disaster as far as I'm concerned. It's way less stable then my previous 300€ Motorola with stock Android was.

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Post by killjoywashere »

travisgriggs wrote: post #145

I'm a little confused by the "Apple's doing bad here" sentiment. The easier to implement, and definitely more effective solution would have been to just disable the Everyone feature completely. Just remove it from the menu. This would have been something like action.isEnabled = self.isInChina Instead, they went through the effort to actually make it still there, but time bombed. They had to add a timeout function, an…

Yeah, I quite agree. Reposting my comment from above here because this makes a better thread ... I think this 10 minute delay might actually be intended to be protective for the protestors. Any radio transmitter is a beacon that can be localized and destroyed. In serious warfare this is a major issue. "I'm up, they see me, I'm down" is drilled into military operators early and often.

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Post by tristor »

skrowl wrote: post #154
webinvest wrote: post #83

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Do you personally know anyone who has been using the same iPhone for 8 years? I find that claim dubious.

Me. I used an iPhone 8 until just recently when I finally gave up on TouchID coming back to flagships and got an iPhone 14 Pro. It lasted fine through three battery replacements, and I expect my new phone to last me for at least 5-6 years as well.

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Post by madars »

lemonberry wrote: post #158
ASalazarMX wrote: post #89

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That also enables unreasonable monopolistic behavior, like not allowing ANY browser besides Safari. Why not allow alternative browser engines that follow strict privacy practices? What about native ad blockers? Why not encourage privacy-friendly apps that don't collect data by lowering/waiving their fees?

"like not allowing ANY browser besides Safari" are you saying this is potentially an issue? Because I have Chrome and Firefox installed on my iPhone and MacBook Air. I also have DuckDuckGo's browser on my iPhone.

Any browser on iPhone is just a skin for Mobile Safari. In particular, you can't install uBlock Origin/similar there. Every time I browse web on an iDevice I feel like I'm losing 20 IQ points.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by snoot »

mhoad wrote: post #9

I don’t ever want to hear again how Apple is some champion of privacy and ethics. I’ve lost count of how many scandals have come out of their relationship with China from the suicide nets to the repeated investigations showing their supply chain was riddled with slave labor that they would later campaign against protections that would prevent it. Now this. They are fucked as a company, I can’t get out of their ecosys…

1. The suicide nets is misinformation.

2. The supply chain is not riddled with slave labor.

3. The chance to airdrop was made weeks before the protest.

You might not be basing your evaluation of Apple’s behavior on reality.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by alvarezbjm-hn »

Panino wrote: post #139
webinvest wrote: post #83

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I mostly agree with you but am optimistic about the future of smartphones. We currently have some alternative operating systems like postmarketOS and Ubuntu Touch that can be used on select devices today . In 10 years I think the ecosystem will be much larger and more mature. Currently we just have iOS and Linux, but in a decade there may be OpenBSD as well, and possibly an order of magnitude more Linux distros for p…

Which phone are you using? My Samsung A71 already does that.

I plug a USB-C hub with an HDMI out to use a monitor/TV as display. Mouse, keyboard, flash drive, headphones, even cd drive, all work through USB in the hub.

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