AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes • Hacker News Board

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by vbezhenar » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:41 PM UTC

ASalazarMX wrote: post #89

yamtaddle wrote: post #59

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> You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. For i-devices, yeah, true. > You can only pay for software on their own store. As nice as exposing the App store to more market effects might be, the app store monopoly enables them to force other companies to be less shitty on the platform (or else abandon it—but it's lucrative, so most don't), so i…

That also enables unreasonable monopolistic behavior, like not allowing ANY browser besides Safari. Why not allow alternative browser engines that follow strict privacy practices? What about native ad blockers? Why not encourage privacy-friendly apps that don't collect data by lowering/waiving their fees?

Because everyone will use Chrome and websites will not support Safari. It happened with IE.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by snoot » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:41 PM UTC

jackmott42 wrote: post #45

mhoad wrote: post #9

I don’t ever want to hear again how Apple is some champion of privacy and ethics. I’ve lost count of how many scandals have come out of their relationship with China from the suicide nets to the repeated investigations showing their supply chain was riddled with slave labor that they would later campaign against protections that would prevent it. Now this. They are fucked as a company, I can’t get out of their ecosys…

Their ethics are terrible. You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. You can only pay for software on their own store. Complete bullshit, and it makes me sad that so many here on HN and elsehwere, tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so m…

> tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so many of you will defend this terrible situation.

There is nothing terrible about Apple making devices my 80+ year old mother can safely and easily use.

I have a Mac, and I also have Linux machines. Nothing is stopping people learning about computers.

Why would anyone spend $1000 on a computer from Apple if it’s not what they want?

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by throwaway23597 » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:41 PM UTC

api wrote: post #44

throwaway23597 wrote: post #2

Apple: where it's totally fine to build products with what amounts to slave labor, and aiding the CCP in censorship is totally cool too, but Twitter is far too dangerous to be allowed on the app store because a meanie is in charge of it.

Musk is also in China's pocket via Tesla. Anything to the contrary is posturing. Look into how much China factors into Tesla's bottom line. The fact is that we are all in China's pocket to some extent. We are addicted to cheap Chinese labor.

It's true, and it won't stop me from buying iPhones. I just wish Apple could recognize this and drop the ridiculous self-righteous moral facade. Same with pretty much all companies.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by arcticbull » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:41 PM UTC

skeaker wrote: post #103

webinvest wrote: post #83

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Apple quite literally had a scandal where it was exposed in court that they deliberately slow older devices down to prematurely make them appear obsolete so that users will discard them sooner. I'm sure there are Android devices that do this too, but Apple really shouldn't be applauded for the longevity of their devices.

That's not true at all.

What was happening is that the CPU was, at peak, pulling more power than an older battery was capable of delivering and it was causing a brownout.

Their solution was to restrict CPU performance as battery condition deteriorated to ensure that your phone was always giving you the maximum level of performance available to you.

Batteries are consumables and their performance degrades over time.

The whole thing was spun into "Apple is reducing performance of my old phone to make me buy a new one" - when the narrative could have just as easily been "Apple gets the most possible out a battery at all times." Note that competitors might have just used the lower performance level the whole time.

After the furor they gave you a 'set my performance to 100% at all times and let my phone take a dirt nap if it can't handle it' toggle switch in settings.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by travisgriggs » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:42 PM UTC

I'm a little confused by the "Apple's doing bad here" sentiment. The easier to implement, and definitely more effective solution would have been to just disable the Everyone feature completely. Just remove it from the menu. This would have been something like

    action.isEnabled = self.isInChina

Instead, they went through the effort to actually make it still there, but time bombed. They had to add a timeout function, and record the time it was enabled, etc. And at the end of the day, the activist/protestor at a street gathering now has the inconvenience of re-enabling "everyone" 6 times an hour.

For me, this basically feels like lip service to the Chinese government, but otherwise a finger. Maybe I'm beeing too myopic.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by tonystarch » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:42 PM UTC

userbinator wrote: post #109

jackmott42 wrote: post #45

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Their ethics are terrible. You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. You can only pay for software on their own store. Complete bullshit, and it makes me sad that so many here on HN and elsehwere, tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so m…

The PC is sadly moving in the same direction.

Can you expand on what you mean by this? Outside of video games I feel that any operating system can do 99% of tasks I need it to.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:42 PM UTC

falcolas wrote: post #76

alphabetting wrote: post #61

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Pretty sure Google has been mostly out of China since Operation Aurora.

They're still trying to get back in. See project Dragonfly for example.

Strawman.

A large chunk of Apple's revenue comes from China. The majority of assembly occurs in China.

Google does a rounding error of business in China - assembly for Nest devices.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by HDThoreaun » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:42 PM UTC

droopyEyelids wrote: post #87

gorkish wrote: post #73

I have to admit that when you actually look at the details this is a rather perplexing change. Ditto for reading the comments here. Is Apple being Pro-CCP with this change? If you open airdrop to everyone, your device can be tracked and identified individually. When this setting is disabled, this becomes far harder. I'm of the opinion that this change is good and actually increases security across the board, includin…

Also, anyone who rides public transportation in a major metropolitan area has probably experienced perverts airdropping them pornography, and this would fix that issue.

I have not experienced this in my 10 years on the subway.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by snoot » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:43 PM UTC

nicolas_t wrote: post #78

jibbers wrote: post #57

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> suicide nets I assume this is about Foxconn. Does that mean you'll be boycotting other companies that also work with them, like Amazon, Dell, Google, HP, Intel, Microsoft, Vizio, Acer, Lenovo, Nintendo, and Sony? I'm genuinely asking. It's a tough pill to swallow to learn all our tech stuff we all enjoy is built on the backs of poor people on the other side of the planet.

I remember reading some reports that actually looked at suicide rate based on the number of people working there and didn't find it that elevated compared to the average. Fact is, anytime you have a big concentration of people in a small place you will have some suicides just by virtue of statistics, so I'm not sure if there's really a much higher number of suicides or if the few that did happen were sensationalised…

Yup - the suicide nets story is pure disinformation. Yes they had nets, but the suicide rate at the factory before the nets were installed was lower than of students at US colleges.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by elicash » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:43 PM UTC

NaturalPhallacy wrote: post #130

elicash wrote: post #7

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Speaking of twitter, it's weird Musk hasn't commented yet on the protests in China. Looking forward to him taking on censorship and standing for free speech around the globe, particularly in China.

> Speaking of twitter, it's weird Musk hasn't commented yet on the protests in China. Tales about what people haven't done are pure propaganda. I first noticed this under trump. News outlets constantly decried him for things he didn't do. That isn't news. News is fundamentally what did happen. Everything else is propaganda. It's a particularly insidious way to malign someone that seems rational, but with absolutely n…

How about faulting him for his pro-China tweets -- praising China for having zero domestic COVID cases; calling on Taipei to hand over some control of Taiwan to China. Meanwhile, seeking favorable treatment from China's government.

I disagree with your premise (as does Musk who is faulting Apple for NOT advertising on Twitter; or anybody who has ever been faulted for not, say, doing the dishes or any other common thing), but even by your standard there's a real problem here.