HN Who is hiring job posts over time • Hacker News Board

Re: HN Who is hiring job posts over time

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Post by Existenceblinks » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 5:52 PM UTC

soneca wrote: post #14

arcturus17 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, 2018-2020 sees a downward trend in hiring, while the S&P500 was still growing steadily. Thing is though, HN Hiring posts seem very FAANG and (even more) startup-biased? The S&P500 is more than that.

I would say that FAANG is not part of HN Who is hiring at all. It seems to be almost 100% small and medium tech startups.

True and a lot fewer remote worldwide jobs than when it's pre-pandemic. Remote (US) -demic is spreading pretty fast. I guess startups don't have resource to use those expensive EoR service.

Re: HN Who is hiring job posts over time

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Post by francisofascii » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 5:54 PM UTC

Very nice. It would be cool to make a "seasonally adjusted" value to even out the drops before the start of each calendar year.

Re: HN Who is hiring job posts over time

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Post by swyx » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 6:14 PM UTC

interesting slowdown from 2018-2020.

how come we didnt feel it back then?

Re: HN Who is hiring job posts over time

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Post by halpmeh » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 6:42 PM UTC

going_ham wrote: post #8

It seems 2020-2022 was boom for tech industry. Now the rate is going backing to pre-2020 which shows it was already in decline! That is quite surprising.

Interest rates were on the rise in 2019. Venture-backed enterprises are very sensitive to the cost of money.

Re: HN Who is hiring job posts over time

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Post by arcturus17 » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 6:48 PM UTC

cortesoft wrote: post #32

arcturus17 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve occasionally seen a “my team at AirBnB is hiring” post but you’re probably right.

AirBnB is not a FAANG. It is medium size.

Okie-doke!

Re: HN Who is hiring job posts over time

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Post by soneca » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 6:49 PM UTC

Existenceblinks wrote: post #51

soneca wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say that FAANG is not part of HN Who is hiring at all. It seems to be almost 100% small and medium tech startups.

True and a lot fewer remote worldwide jobs than when it's pre-pandemic. Remote (US) -demic is spreading pretty fast. I guess startups don't have resource to use those expensive EoR service.

I disagree. I am one who looked for worldwide remote during the last 3 years. A LOT of those positions listed only as “remote” on “Who is hiring” were actually “remote (us)”. Posters just assumed that candidates were Americans.

I think now they learned to specify in the job post that what they meannis actually “remote (us)”. Which is great, saves everyone’s time.

Re: HN Who is hiring job posts over time

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Post by erdos4d » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 6:53 PM UTC

ryandrake wrote: post #26

I think it's hard to gauge who's actually hiring by reading HN "Who's Hiring?" posts or looking at job boards. I think a lot of companies maintain longstanding job posts without actually finding/hiring people. Or they keep interviewing but never commit. Like a fisherman with bait always in the water, never reeling anyone in. The posts should really be renamed to "Ask HN: Who's Interviewing?" or "Ask HN: Who's Fishing…

Yeah, I have as good a CV as anyone and I've never gotten anything off any of these hiring threads. I suspect many posts are just straight up resume collection schemes. If I post on the freelancers thread, I tend to average one reply and it is always some recruiter spamming a job they have, never actual freelance work.

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Post by mkl95 » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 7:00 PM UTC

I have been getting a low volume of offers in the last few months. But the compensation I'm being offered is very high. Hiring freezes may be masking a specialist > generalist trend.

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Post by update8887 » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 7:00 PM UTC

Would be cool to combine that data with the one from https://github.com/joblisttoday/data

Re: HN Who is hiring job posts over time

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Post by anon50118810 » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 7:03 PM UTC

randomdata wrote: post #48

anon50118810 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're talking about different ends of the market. You're talking about the high end where sought-after workers get multiple competitive offers and big raises from switching jobs frequently. In that case a hiring downturn means less offers, less switching and less raises. I'm talking about the low end where every employer has set a floor of let's say $120k for their developer positions, and if for some reason every em…

> We're talking about different ends of the market I am quite specifically talking about price. Maybe you still carry confusion. Maybe you replied to the wrong thread. Maybe you're desperate for that argument you hoped I was engaging in. But whatever it is, we're not talking about that. That is certain.

In terms of price, I've been saying that parts of the developer market work like Veblen goods while I think you've been saying it's all ordinary goods. You started us down this road earlier, maybe unintentionally, by questioning my statement that employers are looking for luxury goods.