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The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by iancmceachern »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #181
iancmceachern wrote: post #113

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I'm an American visiting Paris and have noticed many folks on scooters and ebikes have these skirts that are fabric covers that cover the bike seat and also the legs of the rider when they ride. They also have these mitten like things that attach to the handles that allow you to operate the bike but also protect your hands from the elements. Between those two things, and a decent rain jacket (which you need anyway) i…

Have you seen any solution they're using for transporting things , like groceries or computers or extra clothes?

Yes, there are entire companies devoted to making them. Here are a few:

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle-top-cases?gclid=Cj0KCQiA...

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by oxfeed65261 »

lormayna wrote: post #221
unglaublich wrote: post #96

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That 'raining, snowing, too hot, too cold' argument keeps coming up. You know, we humans are perfectly capable of dressing up appropriately and just enjoying the fresh air, whether it's warm or cold. In fact, it makes you feel alive! Get the nice warm gloves and raincoat out for winter, or the super light and loose shirt with sunglasses for summer.

> too hot, too cold Ami don't have air conditioning or heating systems.

According to the article, the base-spec model Ami has a heater and a “demister” but not A/C.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by elliottkember »

unglaublich wrote: post #271
elliottkember wrote: post #146

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Hopefully, ever-increasing gas prices will do the convincing.

While I am a big human-powered-transportation supporter, feeding a human is generally more expensive than paying for gas to have a machine do it. A human needs some 2kJ / kg / km to ride. That's 1.6MJ. A car needs ~15L gas per 100km, so that's 45MJ for a 10km ride. While the car uses 30x as much energy, it will only cost you $1.30. The human needs 1.6MJ of food. That's about a grilled chicken sandwich. Which will cos…

* at current gas prices

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by Beltalowda »

moonchrome wrote: post #267
Beltalowda wrote: post #212

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> riding in the rain, and especially when it's snowy/icy - is order of magnitude more dangerous - traction/breaking/reduced visibility. Yes, it's more dangerous. No one said it's not. No one even mentioned safety until you brought it up yourself. If you want to bring up safety: great! Go for it! But no need to start calling people "delusional" right from the bat.

But that's the worst part about bad weather - you have to ride much slower and be on high alert - so you're in shitty conditions for even longer - and ebike only makes that worse. For some reason people on ebikes don't realize that they are riding on a shitty motorcycle and how risky it is to remove speed restrictions/zip around traffic on those things - at least that's my impression of the few friends that really go…

Sure, I understand your point; it's a perfectly reasonable. My gripe was with the "that's delusional".

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Post by agateau »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #330
agateau wrote: post #304

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I'd prefer a bullet, if it's traveling at 20km/h.

I would prefer a bullet too, compared to an e-bike, at any speed. Does that mean we should all ride bullets traveling at 20 km/h?

I'd rather not. Never rode one, but I heard bullets are really impractical vehicles. My bike seems much more comfortable.

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Post by fulafel »

unglaublich wrote: post #271
elliottkember wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully, ever-increasing gas prices will do the convincing.

While I am a big human-powered-transportation supporter, feeding a human is generally more expensive than paying for gas to have a machine do it. A human needs some 2kJ / kg / km to ride. That's 1.6MJ. A car needs ~15L gas per 100km, so that's 45MJ for a 10km ride. While the car uses 30x as much energy, it will only cost you $1.30. The human needs 1.6MJ of food. That's about a grilled chicken sandwich. Which will cos…

What about the e-bike, how many MJ goes to electricity and how many to human power?

(Also for the human-powered case, biking often displaces some other exercise. And of course using gas is bringing about the climate catastrophe so it's unethical, money isn't everything)

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Post by hyperbovine »

zac23or wrote: post #209
hyperbovine wrote: post #44

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*Cars as defined by “car people”. Personally I couldn’t care less if my “car looks like a car.” (I don’t even know what that means.) I want it to get me from A to B with a minimum of financial and environmental expense.

Most people care a lot.

Yes, I am sure that most of the car people you know care a lot.

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Post by Gordonjcp »

jeffbee wrote: post #276
Gordonjcp wrote: post #232

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70 isn't old.

The visual acuity of a 70-year-old is roughly on par with a 20-year-old wearing dark sunglasses at night.

That's not actually true.

Although it's bizarre because in the US 70-year-olds seem incredibly frail compared to 70-year-olds anywhere else.

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Post by kwhitefoot »

lormayna wrote: post #221
unglaublich wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That 'raining, snowing, too hot, too cold' argument keeps coming up. You know, we humans are perfectly capable of dressing up appropriately and just enjoying the fresh air, whether it's warm or cold. In fact, it makes you feel alive! Get the nice warm gloves and raincoat out for winter, or the super light and loose shirt with sunglasses for summer.

> too hot, too cold Ami don't have air conditioning or heating systems.

It has heating but not cooling.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by fulafel »

nayuki wrote: post #63

It's nice to see that the Citroen Ami weighs around 500 kg. In a crash with a person/vehicle/building, it's going to do less damage than a typical sedan weighing ~1500 kg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_Ami_(electric_veh...

We're slowly catching up to 1957 and the Fiat 500 in the weight department.
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