Microsoft just needs to place data from EU customers on EU soil and in a manner that is inaccessible to US authorities.
Why is this so hard?
German privacy watchdogs conclude that Microsoft 365 is incompatible with GDPR
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Re: German privacy watchdogs conclude that Microsoft 365 is incompatible with GDPR
#102365 is the cloud base suite of Microsoft Office, you can still use the Microsoft Office 2021 Professional or older versions. 365 is a nice way of collaborate at work, if you are a small business is a nice product, for the big companies this is just going to be more headache for their I.T department, so now instead of relying in the Microsoft servers to allocate and store the documents, they will use any other server…
I've found these cloud editing solutions great for working with your colleagues but terrible for collaborating externally. You can't share a doc with their company for policy reasons and likewise they can't share with you.
I've resorted to sending docx back and forward instead.
Re: German privacy watchdogs conclude that Microsoft 365 is incompatible with GDPR
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Or it will force the European market to innovate instead of directly sending cash to US Megacorps.
If you think Microsoft is a "US Megacorp" you are tuly underestimating their global reach and ownership.
They mean in the sense that its an american company first and foremost. Having worked there a few years I can certainly attest to that, even if they do put a nice enough veneer of local adjustment for their non us orgs.
Re: German privacy watchdogs conclude that Microsoft 365 is incompatible with GDPR
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What's funny is that many Europeans I have spoken with from across the continent have the attitude that you come to the US when you are young to make money then retire to Europe to take advantage of the social safety net. Perhaps not yoir personal opinion, but definitely one that is anecdotally common among white collar workers.
@tomrod is completely right. Here in Bulgaria people have this exact mindset. Some also might just never return.
Indeed. I've heard it from Serbians, Bulgarians, Irish, Scottish, Swedish, German, Italian, Romanian, and Belgian folks that I can recall offhand, maybe more that I'm not completely recalling.
Re: German privacy watchdogs conclude that Microsoft 365 is incompatible with GDPR
#105These people keep acting like they're so clever for figuring this out, yet in reality all they're doing is giving death sentences to European companies by making them unable to use industry standard products.
I don't think Microsoft products are "industry standard", an email is
I think they'll do just fine without Microsoft harvesting your precious data
I think they'll do just fine without being forced to use Microsoft products
I think they'll do just fine without having Microsoft as only choice
I think it's important to fight lobbies and monopolies
I think it's sad that many European companies died because they couldn't compete with Microsoft lobbies
Europe is the home of many big open source projects and open standards
Maybe this will result in a proper open alternative to Microsoft 365
Re: German privacy watchdogs conclude that Microsoft 365 is incompatible with GDPR
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Well Im european and I can tell you from the inside, it's not the same mindset at all. We dont want to grow companies, in fact we barely give a fuck at all. It s hard to understand for capitalists, and I disliked this mindset so much I moved to Hong Kong, but that s what the people vote for: they d rather have no growth and no Microsoft 365 than put their data there. People in most of Europe are truly convinced finan…
> It's not a pragmatic strategy because it ignores we re not alone. It's worse than that, it's delusional and hypocritical. Here in Sweden people will proudly write "We are not like the Americans" on their iPhones, drive Teslas and generally base their whole lifestyles on the foundation created by the American capitalism and possible thanks to the protection of US military.
Re: German privacy watchdogs conclude that Microsoft 365 is incompatible with GDPR
#107These people keep acting like they're so clever for figuring this out, yet in reality all they're doing is giving death sentences to European companies by making them unable to use industry standard products.
Maybe the companies and the US government should respect European laws and people's privacy.
Instead MS brought back productivity-tracking.
That's a No-Go and MS only gets away with it because of their desktop monopoly in the industry.
Re: German privacy watchdogs conclude that Microsoft 365 is incompatible with GDPR
#108Microsoft just needs to place data from EU customers on EU soil and in a manner that is inaccessible to US authorities. Why is this so hard?
US law, specifically the CLOUD Act. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act :(
Re: German privacy watchdogs conclude that Microsoft 365 is incompatible with GDPR
#109finally, this is really great news for anyone european, I hope it won't take long to determine there are a whole lot of other MS products that should also be illegal
How is that great news? The competition is literally decades behind. This is crippling Europe.
Microsoft products haven't really changed in 20 years. What are you referring to? The fact that you can access them anywhere?
Re: German privacy watchdogs conclude that Microsoft 365 is incompatible with GDPR
#110Microsoft just needs to place data from EU customers on EU soil and in a manner that is inaccessible to US authorities. Why is this so hard?
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