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Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by PaulHoule »

janober wrote: post #28
ttrrooppeerr wrote: post #16

> We never thought our startup would be threatened by the unreliability of a company like Microsoft You will be threatened by your own unreliability of building something that's dependant on one region or one cloud.

Totally agree, we could for sure have build from the get go multi-region and multi-cloud but we had good reasons not to do it. Depending on the product, technology, ... would actually also strongly recommend almost every startup to do the same.

No matter what stage of a service you are at you should have a documented procedure (ideally running a script) that can stand up a working instance of the system.

This has vast benefits for agility and fast development when developers are not always fighting the build system and have a "no fear" attitude about deployment.

If you have that, you can build a system in another region and be able to migrate wholesale to another region with more capacity and not be particularly concerned about the general problem of coordinating the service across multiple regions at the same time.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by janober »

option wrote: post #63

I’ve heard from a friend who works at Microsoft that due to energy crisis in Europe plus their data locality laws, Microsoft is indeed running short on datacenter capacity there and can’t do anything about it no matter how much they are willing to spend.

Very interesting. As mentioned in another post, I am sure they are not trying to screw us or anybody else up. Is after all for sure not in their interest. But not flagging that to users I do not get at all. I would expect to get at least a warning email a week about that, plus warning in the dashboard, but there was literally nothing.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by selckin »

gtirloni wrote: post #66
selckin wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no, they have very low quotas by default, and you have to request increases through the portal, which then get rejected and you click the button to contact support/email and then you sometimes have to negotiate with them you have to do this for every single instance type they have, can't even experiment or test other instance types cause its too much trouble to get quota

The comment I replied to was not talking about changing quotas but actually creating instances. > Yes it’s weird that you have to ask them for instances which some actual physical person looks at your request, thinks about it and says yes or no to.

well can't create an instance without having quota available

and low quota is low, like 10 cpu, so start a 2 node k8s cluster with 8cpu each? nope, go request quota increase

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by a99c43f2d565504 »

While you're at it at making your "infrastructure as code" cloud agnostic perhaps take a look at tools like Terraform (the only one I'm familiar with). I've just started the work of defining whatever we need to provision in their notation with the objective that it can be done with a single push of a button in the future.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by andrewstuart »

gtirloni wrote: post #62
andrewstuart wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this is my actual experience using azure.

I can go on Azure right now and create an instance and nobody will check anything manually and email me back something. Maybe you're confusing Azure with some other small town colocation provider.

Nope, I went through this process exchanging more than 30 emails trying to get the instances I wanted.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by craigkerstiens »

This is nothing new, Azure has been having capacity problem for over a year now[1]. Germany is not the only region affected at all, it's the case for a number of instance types in some of their larger US regions as well. In the meantime you can still commit to reserved instances, there is just not a guarantee of getting those instances when you need them.

The biggest advice I can give is 1. keep trying and grabbing capacity continuously, then run with more than what you need. 2. Explore migrating to another Azure region that runs less constrained. You mention a new region would be complicated, but it is likely much easier than another cloud.

1. https://www.zdnet.com/article/azures-capacity-limitations-ar...

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by option »

janober wrote: post #72
option wrote: post #63

I’ve heard from a friend who works at Microsoft that due to energy crisis in Europe plus their data locality laws, Microsoft is indeed running short on datacenter capacity there and can’t do anything about it no matter how much they are willing to spend.

Very interesting. As mentioned in another post, I am sure they are not trying to screw us or anybody else up. Is after all for sure not in their interest. But not flagging that to users I do not get at all. I would expect to get at least a warning email a week about that, plus warning in the dashboard, but there was literally nothing.

as I’ve heard it actually affects much more than Azure, also all their cloud-based productivity suite.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by andrewstuart »

selckin wrote: post #60
gtirloni wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this a joke comment?

no, they have very low quotas by default, and you have to request increases through the portal, which then get rejected and you click the button to contact support/email and then you sometimes have to negotiate with them you have to do this for every single instance type they have, can't even experiment or test other instance types cause its too much trouble to get quota

In the future it will be possible to use computers to figure out what’s available and automatically give it to customers.

21st century man…. it’s coming.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by pclmulqdq »

jakear wrote: post #49

People saying "shame on you for not being multi-region" are missing the point: This is a German company with German customers subject to German data residency laws. For them to store German data in a region besides Germany requires getting informed consent from the "data subject", who must be "pre-informed about the potential risks involved in cross-border data transfer". [1] This is why Azure has a dedicated German…

Time to sign up for AWS or GCP, then. If you're using kubernetes anyway, you'll be fine with the switch.
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