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Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

#101

Post by phgn »

mlinksva wrote: post #98

I like it. Ought to be a built-in browser feature, in addition to generic reader mode. But then so should uBO-level ad blocking...so you may have many years. Have you considered donations/sponsors/patrons? Presumably more an occasional coffee requires massive numbers of users for something like this, but maybe you could do something like prioritize attention to site-specific fixes (which seem to be the main thing in…

Seeing many parts of the UI as unnecessary seems to be a common reaction, particularly for people who find it by searching "reader mode" in the Chrome store.

What do you think about presenting the library aspect as a "Pocket alternative"?

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Post by phgn »

shermix011 wrote: post #99
Whiteshadow12 wrote: post #28

Tested this on pg essays, the social comments is a pretty cool feature, I initially thought you would also surface the footnotes, similar to gwern site (one site I doubt I'd ever use a reader mode on). Lovely tool, in terms of things I would pay for, the actual reader mode is not really the thing I would pay for. What I would pay for would be, highest to lowest: 1. An awesome search engine that can search text I read…

1. There's one called Operand.ai which does exactly that.

Interesting. Do you use Operand regularly?

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

#103

Post by Whiteshadow12 »

shermix011 wrote: post #99
Whiteshadow12 wrote: post #28

Tested this on pg essays, the social comments is a pretty cool feature, I initially thought you would also surface the footnotes, similar to gwern site (one site I doubt I'd ever use a reader mode on). Lovely tool, in terms of things I would pay for, the actual reader mode is not really the thing I would pay for. What I would pay for would be, highest to lowest: 1. An awesome search engine that can search text I read…

1. There's one called Operand.ai which does exactly that.

I love the internet this is perfect thank you. Only issue is no Firefox for now.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

#107

Post by phgn »

clnq wrote: post #62
phgn wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you used other services that summarise articles? What would be the workflow? Do you want to read the summary instead of the article, use it to decide whether to read, or something else?

I've been using Explainpaper ( https://www.explainpaper.com/ ) to get an introductory understanding of textbook chapters and technical articles. I want to do the same for news articles and specialised blogs. Yes, I would like to see a one-paragraph summary of technical articles to decide if they are worthwhile to read. For news articles, the summary might be all I want to read. I have very little time to read things…

Makes sense!

I've actually had a similar feature request before: https://github.com/lindylearn/unclutter/issues/297

Have you tried some of the existing solutions mentioned in the ticket? I'm curious if they solve the problem for you, and if not, what Unclutter could do better.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

#108

Post by phgn »

agumonkey wrote: post #48
phgn wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you use bookmarks right now, and have you tried manual tagging? I believe Pocket premium has AI-suggested article tags. Maybe something similar makes sense for Unclutter, but I'm not sure of the demand for it.

I sometime bookmark, but mostly tags.. or just hoarding lumps of links. Hmm thanks for the info, I didn't know pocket did that. Now I just need this as a standalone firefox extension :) ps: in any case, my suggestion was a soft tongue in cheek, not pressing you, unless it excites you. And kudos on your results already.

Another question: do you look at your saved links frequently, for example to browse by the tag you assigned? What's the primary purpose of tagging?

I just created a ticket for this: https://github.com/lindylearn/unclutter/issues/595

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

#109

Post by mlinksva »

phgn wrote: post #101
mlinksva wrote: post #98

I like it. Ought to be a built-in browser feature, in addition to generic reader mode. But then so should uBO-level ad blocking...so you may have many years. Have you considered donations/sponsors/patrons? Presumably more an occasional coffee requires massive numbers of users for something like this, but maybe you could do something like prioritize attention to site-specific fixes (which seem to be the main thing in…

Seeing many parts of the UI as unnecessary seems to be a common reaction, particularly for people who find it by searching "reader mode" in the Chrome store. What do you think about presenting the library aspect as a "Pocket alternative"?

I've never used Pocket, and upon seeing it in the Firefox UI, immediately searched for how to hide it. I'm the wrong person to ask. :)

But if I were to embrace such features, I'd have a naive question: why do I need to unclutter an article to access them? If I'm perfectly happy reading a normally rendered page and see a phrase I want to annotate, I won't want to break my flow by uncluttering first. This emphasizes to me that these features feel like they belong in two separate extensions.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

#110

Post by pihentagy »

phgn wrote: post #101
mlinksva wrote: post #98

I like it. Ought to be a built-in browser feature, in addition to generic reader mode. But then so should uBO-level ad blocking...so you may have many years. Have you considered donations/sponsors/patrons? Presumably more an occasional coffee requires massive numbers of users for something like this, but maybe you could do something like prioritize attention to site-specific fixes (which seem to be the main thing in…

Seeing many parts of the UI as unnecessary seems to be a common reaction, particularly for people who find it by searching "reader mode" in the Chrome store. What do you think about presenting the library aspect as a "Pocket alternative"?

That would require to sync your library on your Firefox account, right?
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