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Draft policy proposal would authorize SF Police to use deadly force with robots
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Re: Draft policy proposal would authorize SF Police to use deadly force with robots
#42Maybe I lack imagination, but it seems like if you have enough control over a situation that you can deploy a police robot instead of charging in, then you have enough control to make non-lethal force a viable option.
Bystanders. You can't bet someone elses life based on how well a taser may or may not work. LTL is a real dice throw.
> Bystanders.
Also vulnerable to bullets, as it turns out.
Re: Draft policy proposal would authorize SF Police to use deadly force with robots
#43this is a great idea. Many (most?) killings by police are justified that by the "threat to the officer's life". With robots won't we have opportunity to minimize killings by police. The robot's well being is clearly not as important as that of a suspect.
Re: Draft policy proposal would authorize SF Police to use deadly force with robots
#44Maybe I lack imagination, but it seems like if you have enough control over a situation that you can deploy a police robot instead of charging in, then you have enough control to make non-lethal force a viable option.
Bystanders. You can't bet someone elses life based on how well a taser may or may not work. LTL is a real dice throw.
LTL = Less than lethal (?)
How does a lethal robot mitigate bystander risk compared to a policy officer using lethal force?
Re: Draft policy proposal would authorize SF Police to use deadly force with robots
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cops in america already shoot way too many people. Do you think giving them the ability to do that from a remote location is going to help?
I'm not pro gun or even American, but to me it seems a lot of those shootings happen in high stress situations, not in a remotely controlled environment.
Not an American either. I'd wager it's hard to come up with actual numbers on how many of those happen in high stress situations and how many are triggered by the police themselves.
The main issue to my understanding is that you can't trust police reports as they have no incentive to write their motives plainly, and no peer pressure to expose bad reporting.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you think sending in humans is the better option? - REPLYING TO BELOW - > Why does anyone or anything need to “go in”? There are plenty of other ways to deal with these situations instead of pretending to be Seal Team Six. Such as? Like a large magnet to pull the guns out of their hand? Sometimes these situations will only result in shootouts, like busting a drug operation of a gang. Then you have to go in to prot…
There's always not "fighting fire with fire" Working on having less guns would be a start. In terms of "less lethal" pepper spray is usually pretty good
Have you been pepper sprayed?
It's disorienting but you can still be a very lethal threat under it's effects.
That also assumes the pepper spray works, it's not too windy, you can get within 15ft, suspect isn't running...
Re: Draft policy proposal would authorize SF Police to use deadly force with robots
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you think sending in humans is the better option? - REPLYING TO BELOW - > Why does anyone or anything need to “go in”? There are plenty of other ways to deal with these situations instead of pretending to be Seal Team Six. Such as? Like a large magnet to pull the guns out of their hand? Sometimes these situations will only result in shootouts, like busting a drug operation of a gang. Then you have to go in to prot…
Why does anyone or anything need to “go in”? There are plenty of other ways to deal with these situations instead of pretending to be Seal Team Six.
Dead bystanders is usually considered poor form.
Re: Draft policy proposal would authorize SF Police to use deadly force with robots
#48Sure hope that control protocol is secure.
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Re: Draft policy proposal would authorize SF Police to use deadly force with robots
#50I think we've all seen Robocop and know how this works out. I am all for technology making our lives better, but autonomous robots (or even remotely controlled ones) that go around killing people at will isn't the future we should have. Theoretically it's a good idea, until for one reason or another you end up on the kill list. And then it doesn't matter who hacked it or how you go there, you're no longer available to argue. Seems like an awful idea.