Porting 58k lines of D and C++ to Jai

Post by dymk » Wed, Nov 23, 2022, 5:22 PM UTC

StevePerkins wrote: post #20

dymk wrote: post #8

I don’t understand how this language is planning on ever seeing adoption when it’s been restricted from open use since it’s inception. Seems like vaporware.

Over the past decade, I watched HN's and Reddit's hype waves cycle through server-side JavaScript, Golang, Haskell, and now Rust. With plenty of secondary favorites in the mix like Julia, Nim, Zig, etc. A lot of these things do find some modest niche to survive in. But none really take over the world as originally forecast by the hype wave. Ultimately, you either enjoy tinkering with programming languages for persona…

Post by imran0 » Wed, Nov 23, 2022, 5:27 PM UTC

Cyberdog wrote: post #22

p0nce wrote: post #15

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> Supports x86 architecture only No native macOS then? > No virtual functions > Jai is less dogmatic okay

> No native macOS then? Or Pi, or iOS, or practically all Android hardware… Kind of a non-starter IMO. Maybe this was marginally acceptable when the language started in '14 but it becomes less so every year.

Post by p0nce » Wed, Nov 23, 2022, 5:31 PM UTC

chromatin wrote: post #3

I find the "slow compile time" complaint of D interesting; overall I find ldc2 to be one of the faster compilers out there. I suppose the combination of features and metaprogramming used by the author is responsible for the 3-minute compile times in debug mode. While jai is evidently expected to be substantially faster (author estimates 5 sec for this codebase???), other choices like Rust would be far, far slower tha…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 23, 2022, 5:33 PM UTC

mlyle wrote: post #30

zppln wrote: post #29

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People have been believing that for close to a decade now.

Yup, and it keeps steadily winning a small stream of converts and additional projects from C. So I didn't believe it before, but it's starting to seem more plausible. Of course, it'll take a very long time. There's a lot of C code out there. :D

Post by 3a2d29 » Wed, Nov 23, 2022, 5:37 PM UTC

stephc_int13 wrote: post #17

I'd love to see more about Jai. I don't understand why they are not working in the open, this is a tool, not a game, input for a large community is extremely valuable. But as brilliant as Jon Blow is, he is at least equally as stubborn. Fast compilation and nice, easy to read syntax with good default is exactly what I am looking for. I can understand the hype about metaprogramming, and its potential usefulness, but I…