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Medications saved my life as well. That is not the point. The point is do you keep taking them and not look for the nutritional answer to your problem. If a B6 deficiency cured your ADHD would you still want to take stimulants?
> If a B6 deficiency cured your ADHD would you still want to take stimulants? Assuming you mean “if treating a B6 deficiency”, and assuming I had strong expectations that I could expect a cure , I’d consider giving it a try. I’d be cautious about any transition, as it could mean either significant side effects while still taking stimulants, or significant regression without them if the B6 treatment doesn’t work as ho…
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#392I diagnosed when I was like... 8 years old. From then to 17 I was on various meds, finally gave them all up. So for about 22 years I've coped with ADHD without meds. I am a Staff Engineer and make a good living, respected in my field. Regardless of anything else, I think the key thing to remember about ADHD is that you do not need to be a high-performing human being, at all, in life. You will forget things and get di…
I probably have ADHD or something similar, and have coped for nearly 30 years of my life with that. Let me just say, f*ck going through it all without help. The moment I get an official diagnosis, I’m getting on meds. I don’t know what the side effects are, but I struggle to imagine that they are worse than barely being able to function as an adult IT professional.
Invest in your mental health. (Diagnosed 1 year ago)
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#393I'm not sure if i have ADHD, I seem to come up pretty high for Symptons, but I don't want to play doctor on the internet, i'm also in the UK and as an adult I understand it's very difficult to get a diagnosis. I'm also not sure if it's caused by something else. I just really struggle to function and it's a killer. I have lots of projects and life improvement things I want to do, but I wake up and i'm like ughh, I can…
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#394Regarding meds, are people willing to share what kind of doses they are on? I take 27mg of Concerta, and I remember talking to someone taking like... 5x that? And being quite shocked, but there's always that curiosity about what dosages makes sense.
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#395Anyone who has an ADHD diagnosis should also look into ASD. Comorbidity rate data range between 33% and 80% between ADHD and ASD. I’ve only discovered that recently after 10 years as an adult with ADHD. Since then I’ve been looking into the past and recalling things like toe walking as a child, intense sensory issues, painful social interactions, and speech issues. As I’ve done so I’ve also connected with a lot of su…
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> Regardless of anything else, I think the key thing to remember about ADHD is that you do not need to be a high-performing human being, at all, in life. You will forget things and get distracted and not get as much done. So what. You are still intelligent and caring and dedicated and responsible and a hard worker. Exactly! I was diagnosed later in life by which time I had experienced a significant amount of trauma e…
Hi, could you give an example of the “press enter” part? I feel it would work for me but I don’t fully understand what you mean.
Say you’re procrastinating on starting on a new work project. Neurotypicals might just type `npm init myproj` and “hit enter” to break it down into a smaller piece. Useful and seemingly simple..
However, ADHD’ers brain may interpret “hitting enter” as akin to putting your hand on a hot stove element. You literally just can’t do it! In that case type in `npm init myproj`, grab an (open minded) coworker to “hit enter”. Despite the odd looks, having the repo created will often override the blocker!
Though it’s the principal that counts as your brain could shift the blocker to the readme, etc, so you have to adapt as needed. The general premise is to ignore the odd looks, and get help despite the seeming inanity of the action. Involving someone else even trivially helps too, similar to the “body double” concept.
Generally you can use your ability to reason to overcome hind brain hindrances. It’s sort of like using reasoning to create a hot glove to grab hot things out of a fire, rather than “just try harder” to force yourself to have thicker calluses like everyone else. But first you have to accept you don’t have natural calluses and your brain won’t let you grab hot things because it hurts. Grab a glove, or get a friend to.
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> Regardless of anything else, I think the key thing to remember about ADHD is that you do not need to be a high-performing human being, at all, in life. You will forget things and get distracted and not get as much done. So what. You are still intelligent and caring and dedicated and responsible and a hard worker. Exactly! I was diagnosed later in life by which time I had experienced a significant amount of trauma e…
Your comment really, really moved me. And I identify so hard with the press enter anecdote. Thank you.
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I really don't care about the drug or addiction when the alternative is not taking it and not remaining employed. For me I need medication to keep a job if I could. Have a fun and free-wheeling life without employment and without medication. I would totally do that but the reality is in this world you need a job to earn money for everyday life.
"It helps me stay in my golden cage" is what I tell my GFriend. I don't give a shit about my job but it allowed me to buy a house, take vacations and sometimes buy an extensive toy. I would gladly stay in my own world and daydream away, doing some woodworking and see birds in my garden but if I lose my job all that will go away. So I take my ~3€/day pill and try to do my best. I've lost so many opportunities before g…
I'd only manage that for about two days before giving up without the meds, heh
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#399As someone who is also battling ADHD, I feel super anxious reading the comments here all talking about X and Y medicine, which I am super not wanting to do. I used to do therapy but I found my therapist was making videos on Facebook about a few things I told him (though I was never named but I felt this was a huge breach of trust). I exercise quite a bit. (lots of cardio and core exercises, I particularly enjoy barbe…
And you know what? I figured out, it's just not a big deal. You get a slightly increased heart rate, so you'll feel a little warm the first couple days. Other than that, though, the effect is that you are able to ignore distractions and adjust your focus at will a bit better. It doesn't turn you into someone else, and it doesn't turn you into what you imagine a neurotypical person abusing stimulants is like.
If you're struggling in any way, and think it could help, it's worth a try. They're non-addictive (I don't have any particular desire to take them).
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> If a B6 deficiency cured your ADHD would you still want to take stimulants? Assuming you mean “if treating a B6 deficiency”, and assuming I had strong expectations that I could expect a cure , I’d consider giving it a try. I’d be cautious about any transition, as it could mean either significant side effects while still taking stimulants, or significant regression without them if the B6 treatment doesn’t work as ho…
You make me assumption that I’m trying to disabuse you of taking your medication. I’m not. I don’t care, take it if you want. But by not being open to other methods of treatment, you aredisabusing people of that choice. You go on and on about how you don’t think it would work, but have you ever had your B6 level tested never mind your red blood cell B6 levels? I get it, you don’t care, you found a treatment that work…
> I mean you did not even bother to search for another paper.
I most certainly did. The search results I got were primarily ads, and few clinical studies I found were, like the one you linked, far less bold in the results they claimed than your claim of a “cure”.
> You make me assumption that I’m trying to disabuse you of taking your medication. I’m not. I don’t care, take it if you want. But by not being open to other methods of treatment, you aredisabusing people of that choice.
Excuse me, how?
> You go on and on about how you don’t think it would work
The studies themselves don’t support your claim of a cure.
> but have you ever had your B6 level tested never mind your red blood cell B6 levels?
No, I haven’t been to a doctor since some person on the internet mentioned this a few days ago. I did have a scheduled psychiatrist appointment in that time, but had to reschedule because il out of state for a family medical emergency.
> I get it, you don’t care
I don’t know where you got that impression. I took the time to reply thoughtfully and, despite your impressions otherwise, to look for other studies more pertinent to my own experience. In my thoughtful response I expressed caution and the reasons for that caution, which you completely ignored.
> you found a treatment that works, even though that treatment is not curing the underlying disorder
That’s right. And it’s important. It’s the reason I’m still alive. I’m cautious about upsetting treatment that works because I would very much like to remain alive.
> I’ve been working with people with new disorders for 25 years and I’ve seen it over and over again.
I don’t know if you mean the disorder is new in the world (it’s not) or in me (it’s also not).
> So I’m not asking you to stop taking anything I’m asking you to keep an open mind which you seem to not be able to do.
I don’t know where you got that impression. An open mind isn’t characterized by immediately accepting life changing “solutions” proposed by random people on the internet, regardless of whether they cite medical studies. I expressed an open mind, I said I’d consider giving it a try.
> That’s OK.
In your own words, I don’t believe you. You have talked past me and several others in this thread, and you don’t seem to want to accept anything other than a revelation that what I need is vitamins rather than the treatment that my doctor prescribes. You have even suggested that I’m preventing other people from treatment (or a “cure”) you think more appropriate simply because I haven’t dropped everything to try your preferred treatment. If this is how you “work with” other people who are hoping to treat their ADHD effectively, god help them. And it has nothing to do with the particular treatment, I felt the same way about my first psychiatrist who was just as zealous about stimulant treatment.