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How does Windows decide whether your computer has full Internet access?

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Re: How does Windows decide whether your computer has full Internet access?

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Post by twerkmonsta »

DoctorOW wrote: post #197
sour-taste wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's been around a long time and likely built up a lot of good will. I strongly suspect that he does these blog posts as a side project and is encouraged by management because they are popular and people like them. It would be foolish of a manager to kill something that people like.

I'd argue Microsoft management has been perfectly fine killing off things people like.

Genuinely curious what Microsoft products people actually like? VS code might be the only one I’ve ever heard of.

Re: How does Windows decide whether your computer has full Internet access?

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Post by ryanmarr »

rightbyte wrote: post #188

Why do I get the feeling Raymond is the only human at Microsoft? Does he have some kind of special deal to be able to be one? Writing all these cozie Windows trivia blog posts. That I like. Why is he not smashed by some manager? Could everyone else do this if they liked?

This is how I feel about Jeff Barr at AWS.

Re: How does Windows decide whether your computer has full Internet access?

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

DangitBobby wrote: post #223
kiwijamo wrote: post #219

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Are you able to e.g. install apps without an apple account? I seem to recall simple things like that wasn't possible unless you had signed into an apple account.

Not being able to use the app store is pretty different from not being able to setup the computer.

Considering that on these Apple devices the Apple store is literally the only entry point for running actual programs on these devices, I would say it is indeed pretty equivalent to "not being able to setup the computer".

Re: How does Windows decide whether your computer has full Internet access?

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Post by still_grokking »

twerkmonsta wrote: post #231
DoctorOW wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd argue Microsoft management has been perfectly fine killing off things people like.

Genuinely curious what Microsoft products people actually like? VS code might be the only one I’ve ever heard of.

Not really "products". But the stuff coming out of MS Research is mostly great!

But granted, MS Research is not M$…

Re: How does Windows decide whether your computer has full Internet access?

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Post by satysin »

throwaway0x7E6 wrote: post #30
photoGrant wrote: post #2

Doing this during a Windows 11 install will result in a road block until you fix said connection issues. You literally can't proceed without finding a hidden terminal and disabling the process and restarting. Insane.

even with the cable unplugged and no wifi module?

I ran into this a few weeks ago with an Intel 12th Gen NUC. The Windows 11 install media does not have drivers for the LAN nor the WiFi so it just sits there saying you need to connect to a network to complete setup.

How on earth did Microsoft okay releasing a Professional version of their OS that offers no suggestion on how to finish the install when no network devices are detected?

A simple Google found me the answer but it is piss poor UX to offer zero options when it knows there is no network interface to enable.

People like to joke that you need the Terminal in Linux still and yet I couldn't even install the brand new Windows 11 on a computer without needing to open a command prompt using a keyboard shortcut and enter some cryptic command which rebooted my machine and enabled some hidden option.

Re: How does Windows decide whether your computer has full Internet access?

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

jonathantf2 wrote: post #191
albertopv wrote: post #127

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Windows experience is worse and worse. On my Windows 10 company provided PC I found games installed remotely. In a professional PC! A friend of mine found Spotify installed [1]. That's insane. [1] https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/09/28/spotify-app-is-auto...

Your company hasn't set it up properly then, there's an option to "disable consumer experiences" ( https://admx.help/?Category=Windows_10_2016&Policy=Microsoft... )

One of the companies I was in actually blocked the entire MS Store through policy, but this results in most of Windows 10 going batshit insane (e.g. the Settings app will not even allow you to change keyboard layouts, because to retrieve language files it must go to the MS Store).

Re: How does Windows decide whether your computer has full Internet access?

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Post by agency »

twerkmonsta wrote: post #231
DoctorOW wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd argue Microsoft management has been perfectly fine killing off things people like.

Genuinely curious what Microsoft products people actually like? VS code might be the only one I’ve ever heard of.

TypeScript

Re: How does Windows decide whether your computer has full Internet access?

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Post by still_grokking »

twerkmonsta wrote: post #231
DoctorOW wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd argue Microsoft management has been perfectly fine killing off things people like.

Genuinely curious what Microsoft products people actually like? VS code might be the only one I’ve ever heard of.

I've just came up with two more: Solitaire and Minesweeper.

People love this programs so much that MS added them to their dreaded Teams. Now you can have truly productive meetings!

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/16/23462041/microsoft-teams...

Re: How does Windows decide whether your computer has full Internet access?

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Post by thakoppno »

mike_d wrote: post #93
thakoppno wrote: post #54

` http://www.msftconnecttest.com/connecttest.txt ` Wonder what kind of uptime this service has and what sort of footprint is needed?

It is hosted on the Azure CDN, which is partially Azure datacenters and backed up by Akamai. msftncsi.com is completely on Akamai. Here is a list of Azure operated locations: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/microsoft-pop-ab...

thank you - any guess on the requests/second?

and what about the origin behind the cdn? seems like that it’s still rather critical and would have migrated multiple physical hosts over the past 30 years.

This sort of thing is fascinating and I do something similar at a much smaller scale at day job, keeping a simple service running that enables the rest of the stack to survive.

Re: How does Windows decide whether your computer has full Internet access?

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Post by still_grokking »

mariusmg wrote: post #204
DoctorOW wrote: post #197

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I'd argue Microsoft management has been perfectly fine killing off things people like.

Clippy ?

Clippy's not dead.

https://www.slashgear.com/1102367/microsoft-is-reviving-clip...

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