What's the point of demonitizing a tweet? Its not like youtube where the author is getting a share of the profits.
“Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”
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#252Elon “free speech” Musk. >Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized. Guess this guy finally realized that a free for all model is not feasible.
> Elon “free speech” Musk. Is your usage of quotations marks intended to adhere to one of these? If so, which one, and how? If not, what is the intent of them? ------------------------------------------------- https://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp - Rule 1. Use double quotation marks to set off a direct (word-for-word) quotation. Correct: “I hope you will be here,” he said. Incorrect: He said that he “ho…
> terms used in an unusual way
> I had a visit from my “friend” the tax man.
If you're going to pull out the dictionary in bad faith, it would behoove you to read the defs you're pulling out.
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#253Many commentators seem to think this is a sudden, recent backpedaling from a previous absolutist view on free speech. However, Musk has been promoting the "freedom of speech" vs "freedom of reach" distinction for a while, at least months before his takeover, including describing how such a policy should be implemented at Twitter. Here's one example quote from June, 2022: “I think there’s this big difference between f…
Schrödinger’s Musk, both a free speech absolutist, a right wing f-the-libs troll and a silencer of negative hate tweets all at the same time.
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#254There's some interesting discussion in this thread about whether this is the right or wrong move for Twitter. However, after the debacle last night, I think it's a moot point, I simply don't see twitter.com still running within the next few months, possibly within the next few weeks. He's fired 50% of the company, reports seem that conservatively 50% of the remainder just quit yesterday, their subscription service ha…
This is delusional. When you have a big tech company with thousands of employees, the pareto principle comes into play in a huge way: proably only 10% of these people are actually doing any work that directly impacts the platform. At least half the employees are probably not doing anything really useful. This applies even to tech companies with a mere 100 total employees. At 3000 employees it's probably even more so.…
>He is good at making engineers a "high status class"
From what I've seen, Elon's companies pay below-market for most roles. Levels.fyi indicates that, on average, engs take a 10-15% pay cut by deciding to work for Tesla.
I'm sure there are a handful of engineers that exist that could save Twitter single-handedly, but none that would do it for the pay he's offering.
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
It appears that three of these that you listed, which are the most silencing, will no longer be used (assuming legal content): post removals, temporary bans, permanent bans. I don't understand how the new policy is "status quo", if this is true. That's a very significant change of policy.
> It appears that three of these that you listed, which are the most silencing, will no longer be used (assuming legal content): post removals, temporary bans, permanent bans. This is not the case given that Twitter has removed posts[1] and banned accounts that were critical of Musk[2]. [1] https://external-preview.redd.it/LvQhCbGd3mXlAjyj0GktvQaAJ_3... [2] https://i.redd.it/5hgt89c599y91.jpg
These twitter screenshots from reddit are marked 7-Nov-2022 and 4-Nov-2022.
Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”
#256There's some interesting discussion in this thread about whether this is the right or wrong move for Twitter. However, after the debacle last night, I think it's a moot point, I simply don't see twitter.com still running within the next few months, possibly within the next few weeks. He's fired 50% of the company, reports seem that conservatively 50% of the remainder just quit yesterday, their subscription service ha…
I agree that there will likely be a serious outage, probably several, but there's too much money on the table for twitter to just go away. The product, although poorly monetized, is immensely successful and widely loved. If Musk and all remaining twitter employees just disappeared, somebody would pick up those pieces. Granted, it's likely impossible to maintain stability on a totally alien system of that scale, but it's not impossible to figure out how to run it at all. Stability will come with time, and because of twitter's importance to our society, they'll probably have the time.
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
> At this point its best to hope markets dont start reconsidering your other companies as risky business. I think this is inevitable. One, Elon is trying to prop up Twitter by using SpaceX money to buy ads. He's dipping his hand into other companies to keep his new toy afloat for a while longer. I don't know if the word "contamination" is appropriate here, but it's pretty clear that Elon doesn't see any kind of sharp…
What accomplishments of others? They took a simple database driven tweet index, that just showed tweets as they were posted, and turned it into a politically polarized echo chamber. They created dozens of internal social “teams” to ensure their algorithm blocked what they didn’t like and showed only what they liked, and destroyed any actual discourse that was on the site at all. Elon likes the CONCEPT of Twitter, see…
I was talking about PayPal, Tesla, SpaceX, and StarLink.
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#258There's some interesting discussion in this thread about whether this is the right or wrong move for Twitter. However, after the debacle last night, I think it's a moot point, I simply don't see twitter.com still running within the next few months, possibly within the next few weeks. He's fired 50% of the company, reports seem that conservatively 50% of the remainder just quit yesterday, their subscription service ha…
This is delusional. When you have a big tech company with thousands of employees, the pareto principle comes into play in a huge way: proably only 10% of these people are actually doing any work that directly impacts the platform. At least half the employees are probably not doing anything really useful. This applies even to tech companies with a mere 100 total employees. At 3000 employees it's probably even more so.…
I’d maybe take it easy calling others delusional if I were you.
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
> More permissive perhaps, but not by much I don't understand this perspective. The Babylon Bee was banned for misgendering someone. It looks like they would not be banned under the new policy. That is an extreme difference.
"We're told our account will be restored in 12 hours, but the countdown won't begin until we delete the tweet that violates the Twitter Rules." They opted out by not deleting the tweet. Under the new policy the tweet would just not really appear with or without the consent of the user. "We're not deleting anything. Truth is not hate speech. If the cost of telling the truth is the loss of our Twitter account, then so…
> They opted out by not deleting the tweet.
This is misleading. They were banned for the tweet. They opted out of removing the tweet, which would lift the ban.
In the new policy, they would not be banned for the tweet. The fact that they were banned in the old policy, and would not be banned in the new policy, is irrefutable proof that the policies are very different, which means, by definition, it's not "status quo":
status quo:
the existing state of affairs, especially regarding social or political issues.Re: “Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted and demonetized”
#260Many commentators seem to think this is a sudden, recent backpedaling from a previous absolutist view on free speech. However, Musk has been promoting the "freedom of speech" vs "freedom of reach" distinction for a while, at least months before his takeover, including describing how such a policy should be implemented at Twitter. Here's one example quote from June, 2022: “I think there’s this big difference between f…
Why not just ditch the algorithms. Go back to what twitter was in the beginning: you see the tweets of people you follow. That's it.
Perhaps the most infuriating “feature” of all modern social media is that people I specifically follow do not manage to land their more interesting and controversial thoughts on my timeline, and vice versa. I don’t understand what the point of following someone is, if some of their content is not gonna reach me. How can I be more explicit in conveying my intent of reading those thoughts?