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Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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I would obviously not want to work in such an environment, but. Given that he fired so many people, yet the site is working unchanged and works exactly the same as before, maybe he’s not that crazy? I can log in to the website and see no difference; nothing is obviously broken. Maybe he’s right and most people were doing nothing? I don’t know.

I have chosen to turn off the ventilation in this coal shaft, we are all breathing just fine so it obviously wasn't necessary.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#962

Why wouldn’t he have done a few weeks due diligence before making any changes? This seems like the worst way to do a management take-over.

Same reason he didn't do due dilligence before offering them $44b; He spends most of his days sniffing his own farts, telling himself he's awesome, and being adored by legions of random people on the internet.

He's basically a twitch streamer in terms of behavior and pleasure response to attention, so expect him to act like one.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#963
post #792

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> But seriously, how can someone burn down something he just bought for 44 billion so fast and consequently? The fan boys would say: It’s Elon, he is playing 3D chess and no one is smart enough to understand his end goal.

This is 100% going to happen. Twitter will crash and burn, and then fanboys will go "This was Elon's plan all along! He hated Twitter, and just wanted to kill it to own the libs. Everything he was doing was an act. What a genius!!"

And inevitable victim blaming: "Twitter was doomed. Not even Elon could save it!"

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#964

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe his vision for Twitter 2.0 is to rebrand Twitter as X (I believe he owns x.com) and rebuild it as WeChat for the North American.

Twitter engineers are reporting in saying he gave no indication of how this would be done. See my other comments for a source. I think that’s it too, but I wonder about it’s feasibility. I’m not sure we need a WeChat in the west. I remember a good article shared here about how the Chinese ecosystem is so different that WeChat makes sense.

oh yes the how and whether its actually a product people want or not are huge open questions that haven't been answered, at least not externally and seemingly not internally as well.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#965

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> Why would anyone stay? “Hey, do you want to work triple the amount of hours for me for the same pay?” Probably even less pay. No more stocks (and if: limited ways of selling ... unless Musk manages to execute a massive pivot and then go public again)

He could give out stock. Anyone staying by choice (not forced like an h1b), has to buy into the vision that their 'hardcore' work will eventually make Twitter public again. Effectively rebooting the company as a startup. IMO, given EM's antics, he's making the base pay of anyone he hires go up, not down. I can't imagine what he's going to have to pay the CEO he says he's going to put in place at Twitter.

> He could give out stock.

But as it is no longer a public company, any such stock is not liquid. Unclear when one could sell it, if ever. So basically worth nothing.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#966
post #101

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I really hope it implodes. He has been so childish throughout, he deserves to lose the 44 billion. Sucks that thousands of people are out of work, but maybe this is better for them than a slow painful death of a once okayish company.

What about all the poor people on visas who are now desperately looking for jobs to avoid having themselves and their families deported?

Like I said I feel sorry for them, I can't imagine that the h1b and other programs don't have good will time for them to find other employment. Twitter doesn't hire hacks, I'm sure they'll be fine. I'm just talking about the overall greater good because I think they -all- will be out of a job soon. I never wanted twitter to die, but if it's just going to be parler with venmo shrug

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#967
post #895

What happens when Twitter survives despite reducing headcount by 80-90%? It's going to send a message that companies are more overstaffed than we thought. This may explain an underlying fear driving even some engineers to put their reputation on the line with confident declarations that Twitter is going to fail. Some were saying it wouldn't survive the night. It's now morning. Others saying it won't last the weekend…

> It's going to send a message that companies are more overstaffed than we thought.

Consider the FTX news, where the new CEO appointed to clean up the mess called it a complete failure of corporate governance.

There is a huge amount of work that isn't directly related to keeping a website running that is required to sustain a large corporation and keep it legal. You can ignore all of this for a while, but not forever.

From various reports it seems Twitter has fired everyone in security, privacy, media relations, regulatory compliance and we probably haven't heard of everything.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#968
post #730

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That's also my thought. I cannot believe someone could burn through cash possibly this fast in history. Surely, something to be remembered for...

Well, Twitter is not burning through as much cash anymore now that most of the people are gone… Cutting the burn rate is a clear and sensible part of Musk’s strategy. The more he lowers Twitter’s expenses, the more time he gives Twitter to try new things. He’s done a terrible job of executing it, but that part of the business strategy, at least, is sound.

"burning cash" in this context doesn't refer to the literal burn rate, it's more that he's spending a great deal of money without presenting any clear vision or direction for the company

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#969
Software developers who choose to stay at Twitter after the lack of respect and asymmetrical demand for respect that Musk has demonstrated towards them are just like Ted Cruz licking Trump's boots and kissing his ass after Trump called his wife ugly.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#970
post #60

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Not that this is at all significant, but these past few months of Twitter charades have erased any appetite for one day buying a Tesla, or any other Musk owned products. Luckily almost every automaker is coming out with their own EVs in the next couple years, so the market should be pretty competitive(in some ways it already is).

Is this in solidarity because you don't like him or because it reduces your faith in his other companies?

More towards the latter because Musk seems to have some pretty crazy and awesome ideas for the future but now we seem to be going a bit off the rails, especially in a time where economic uncertainty might lend to a more conservative approach. Up until now I can see the vertical integration of Musk's ventures, being able to share tech between Tesla/Spacex/Starlink/Boring Company/etc...but the behavior at Twitter is really in left field, almost like he is going crazy.

There are a lot of people I like to whom I would not hand over $50k+ for a nice product. For that kind of expenditure I want some certainty that the future outlook and mission of a company is on solid ground.

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