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Here’s what I don’t understand. Elon has offered no vision for twitter 2.0, only the promise of hard work towards a nebulous goal. He then offered no equity in return for that hard work rebuilding the platform. Why would anyone stay? “Hey, do you want to work triple the amount of hours for me for the same pay?” I wonder if seeing Chinese companies and Chinese factories work has warped his judgement. Without a vision…

“Karpathy”.. who??

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post #730

How does one follow a come-back-to-office police while being simultaniously being locked out from said office? Is this an employer lockout, the employer version of an employee strike? So many questions! Maybe one of those blue checkmarked Elon's on Twitter can answer! But seriously, how can someone burn down something he just bought for 44 billion so fast and consequently?

That's also my thought. I cannot believe someone could burn through cash possibly this fast in history. Surely, something to be remembered for...

Bill Hwang must be throwing a fit now that Musk is beating his high score.

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#873

My respect to twitter folks quitting en mass is through the roof. I understand those who can not quit right now due to financial commitments. But as soon as your house is in order, quit. This will send a strong message to anyone trying to emulate musk.

And the people looking at your resume later. Staying at Twitter now will need a darn good explanation, otherwise I guess the assumption is you buy into this BS, or you need your visa. If you need your visa I get it, otherwise that is a stain on your resume

I was saying the same thing to friend last night. If I saw “Twitter X-Y” on a resume where X is = 2023 then I’m going to have questions. The people attracted to that kind of company run by that kind of person set off red flags for me. H-1B is an acceptable reason, almost anything else isn’t.

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#874

Here’s what I don’t understand. Elon has offered no vision for twitter 2.0, only the promise of hard work towards a nebulous goal. He then offered no equity in return for that hard work rebuilding the platform. Why would anyone stay? “Hey, do you want to work triple the amount of hours for me for the same pay?” I wonder if seeing Chinese companies and Chinese factories work has warped his judgement. Without a vision…

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe his vision for Twitter 2.0 is to rebrand Twitter as X (I believe he owns x.com) and rebuild it as WeChat for the North American.

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#875
post #392

Elon's first non-reply tweet since the news broke: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593415171149791232 > How do you make a small fortune in social media? > Start out with a large one.

Good word, it gets better from there: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593455727611215872 > And … we just hit another all-time high in Twitter usage lol > Let that sink in … He literally cannot distinguish between good and bad attention. He still thinks he's winning this.

Pretty sure other disasters have caused spikes in Twitter usage too. Even someone as dense as F.Elon should know that transient fluctuations in any metric don't mean anything. Do they not teach statistics in South African high schools? Only sustainable changes matter, and when Twitter itself is the disaster that's not sustainable. People will only stand around in hopes of seeing the final collapse for so long.

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post #426

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Ok but what if they can't

Then the company can hire more engineers? Even if devs in SF virtue-signal on Twitter about how they'd never work under Musk, a competitive paycheck attracts outsiders.

Except Musk's companies are already known for underpaying, and the Twitter is stuck servicing a colossal debt from the purchase.

Any engineers capable enough to rescue this trainwreck will likely be able to secure better compensation elsewhere without having to endure Musk's new indefinite "hardcore" death march.

Twitter is going to operate on a skeleton staff of H1B's dependent on their employment for their visas (who are probably already floating their resumes) and whatever underqualified graduates they can hire.

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post #688

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> I don't see what it is about the Twitter product that would require going "hardcore". It's been more than twenty years since the dot-com bust and people still think that just because a company is on a website that makes it a tech company. Sure, Twitter's product is twitter.com the website, but most criticism of it and ideas for improvement don't revolve around the engineering aspects of keeping a website running: t…

But.. isn't he trying to turn it into a Super App like WeChat? That means they have to build about 10 other huge products plus every new idea the boss comes out with in by next week. After having their headcount cut in half. Sounds pretty hardcore to me

If he’s trying to do that, then I’d say he should focus outside of engineering and more on product design, marketing, and brand.

“How to build a Super App” is not that complicated, from an engineering perspective. It does requires hard work, especially if you want to build it fast.

But the big problem is not really how to build it as much as how to make it successful: how to make people use your app over other ones they already use. There are apps like Venmo and WhatsApp that cover WeChat’s use cases pretty well, why should people switch to Twitter?

Step one would probably be to get people to trust your app. I don’t think the latest developments at Twitter make it seem particularly trustworthy

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post #228

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But Elon was fired from PayPal. He failed at Boring Company and Neuralink. He faked his educational credentials and was in the country illegally. He failed at Full Self Driving, the Roadster is nowhere to be seen, the Cybertruck is MIA and the Tesla Semi is years late. 95% of predictions he has made has failed to pass. As far as I can tell, he lucked out during the .com boom, then invested in Tesla and almost drove i…

“Failed at self driving” how about give some credit as well?

I’ll give Musk credit for the two decapitations caused by his involvement in self driving technologies. We developed technology and research protocols on how to make self driving safe all the way back in 2007, and Musk thinking he knows better has predictably lead to deaths. That’s on him.

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#880

Here’s what I don’t understand. Elon has offered no vision for twitter 2.0, only the promise of hard work towards a nebulous goal. He then offered no equity in return for that hard work rebuilding the platform. Why would anyone stay? “Hey, do you want to work triple the amount of hours for me for the same pay?” I wonder if seeing Chinese companies and Chinese factories work has warped his judgement. Without a vision…

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe his vision for Twitter 2.0 is to rebrand Twitter as X (I believe he owns x.com) and rebuild it as WeChat for the North American.

Twitter engineers are reporting in saying he gave no indication of how this would be done. See my other comments for a source.

I think that’s it too, but I wonder about it’s feasibility. I’m not sure we need a WeChat in the west. I remember a good article shared here about how the Chinese ecosystem is so different that WeChat makes sense.

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