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Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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I've been reading the left and the right sides on this whole thing... and I kinda agree with this one: https://www.newsweek.com/tantrum-twitter-reveals-how-privile... We're pretty damn spoiled.

I can't disagree more with this take.

The benefits and salaries that Twitter employees get are just the free market at work. Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple don't pay big bucks and give huge perks because they're liberal, they do it because it's the only way to retain talented employees.

The take is hypocritical at it's core. Musk himself is an extremely privileged billionaire. Under the same principle that Musk deserves his wealth, Twitter employees deserve every penny of compensation and every hour of time off that they get.

Musk doesn't get that. He's going to utterly fail because the engineers at Twitter have other options. They don't have to work there. They worked there because they were getting competitive benefits and salary. Musk is cutting that just because he doesn't like the rate. Ok, fine, but don't be surprised when your company falls apart and you can't hire anyone as a result.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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You're assuming that someone leaving immediately causes things to break down. A lot of things will take some time to see the effects of people leaving. Fire your entire payroll department. No one will notice... until the biweekly paychecks don't go out, and now your employees aren't getting paid. Fire badge security. No one will notice... until you need someone to make a new badge for a new employee. Fire your IT sta…

He fired badge security, deactivated all badges & then asked that guy to come back just so workers could get out of the parking garage which required a badge to do so. You can see the tweet about it. It happened YESTERDAY.

That was from a parody account.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #72

Wild prediction: Twitter will continue to work as it did even after that ~80% workforce haircut. Make of that what you will.

But the advertisers might leave.

No they wont. Its corporate virtue signalling. As one example, I remember back in 2020 1000+ vowed to leave Facebook [1], but guess what...they came back.

The sad thing is that people are suckers who actually believe alot of this corporate PR.

[1]:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/01/business/media/facebook-b...

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #72

Wild prediction: Twitter will continue to work as it did even after that ~80% workforce haircut. Make of that what you will.

I seriously doubt that. The dynamics play out completely different.

Let's look at the admin/security teams. These are the people that literally keep things running. If a significant percentage of people from those teams quit, the others have to immediately pick up the slack (much longer on calls...) the added workload then leads to an avalanche where more and mor epeople quit. And it is always in the most business critical teams where these dynamics play out.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #135

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Engineers interested in cars or rockets have way fewer exciting options than web devs working at Twitter.

While true, engineers ae SpaceX are much much harder to replace that web devs/engineers at Twitter, which are a dime a dozen. With so many in the Valley cutting jobs, if Twitter needs to hire new engineers, I don't think they'll have issues finding them.

And by "a dime" I mean "a significant total comp package"

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #163

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> The idea that an employer should keep people that don't like him or her is insane. It's not insane. Only keeping people that kiss your ass is how you get echo chambers and lose touch with reality.

Of course, but it's not binary. It's not a choice of people who hate you or love you unquestionably. There's a middle ground between those. I don't buy into the notion that the chief engineer of SpaceX, which puts rockets in space, and CEO of Tesla, which efficiently produces electric cars, doesn't know how to stay in touch with reality. The evidence is in direct conflict.

He's the "Technoking of Tesla" and just tweeted about Ligma Johnson.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #38

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That's pretty narrow-minded and limits your growth potential tremendously. Oh well, sometimes I forget this website is dominated by engineers...:)

Your career growth is bounded by the weaknesses of your idols. Being blind to those weaknesses limits your growth potential tremendously.

That is true and supports my statement. If you're chasing technology over people, from whose weaknesses and mistakes could you learn from, apart from your own?

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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You're assuming that someone leaving immediately causes things to break down. A lot of things will take some time to see the effects of people leaving. Fire your entire payroll department. No one will notice... until the biweekly paychecks don't go out, and now your employees aren't getting paid. Fire badge security. No one will notice... until you need someone to make a new badge for a new employee. Fire your IT sta…

He fired badge security, deactivated all badges & then asked that guy to come back just so workers could get out of the parking garage which required a badge to do so. You can see the tweet about it. It happened YESTERDAY.

That's hilarious. And sad.

Reminds me of a cleaners strike were after 2 weeks everyone suddenly realised that those invisible men and women do important work. A corporation is a machine in which even the tiniest cog matters.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #62

Did Musk describe 'Breakthrough Twitter 2.0' in a separate message that hasn't been made public? "Stay at Twitter because we're moving to 80 hour work weeks and cancelling Christmas" can't be the argument by itself, right? It's got to be something like "Stay at Twitter because we're building exciting new project X, but we'll need 80 hour work weeks to pull this off..."

No such vision exists. “Twitter 2.0” is still vaguely about free speech, somehow making lots of money from verified users, and also WeChat-of-the-West style payments (as if anyone would trust their money to this company).

I'd almost put money on twitter 2.0 going on a blockchain
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